Also Chris Kinner worked with Loui Faz as coach at Dover , I think that would be the dream combination. We could even get Paul Barnes back as a coach but we need that experienced man as manager.
-- Edited by Chris on Sunday 5th of January 2020 04:38:13 PM
I reckon you have proposed about 20 different options on this thread alone but this has to be the best of the lot!
Faz is a great bloke and was a terrific player for us but a football coach/manager he is not. He was the fitness coach/warm up man at Dover and nothing else. And as for Barnes as well...some people have short memories...
As has been said elsewhere there are lots of coaches out there with lots of badges but that doesn't mean they will make good managers....I give you one Harry Wheeler and one Jody Brown as perfect examples of that. Hopefully MG will get in a proven manager with a decent track record and one who has some idea about this league as well. Of course that may cost but I feel a decent manager worth his salt at this level is worth the investment even if it means using more budget on him and having to shed a player or two as a result.
If Mark does want to sell then surely the first option is it offer to the supporters at what he paid for it.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Sunday 5th of January 2020 12:40:02 PM
The supporters? Really? It might be feasible if we want to go several steps down the pyramid but I don't see how it would be realistic in National League South. I doubt we'd raise the money to buy the club let alone run it, without a financial backer and if someone was willing to put a substantial amount of money in why wouldn't they just buy the club for themselves?
Given I think there is zero chance of the club being sold unless the development falls through. Taking into account if we get relegated and factor in liabilities and who actually owns the shares etc, I would say MG could be bought out for not much more than what the fans raised to pay off HMRC
With the uncertainty it would be good to see WUSA active and at least call a meeting.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Monday 6th of January 2020 10:26:16 AM
As has been said elsewhere there are lots of coaches out there with lots of badges but that doesn't mean they will make good managers....I give you one Harry Wheeler and one Jody Brown as perfect examples of that.
I suspect that would rather depend on whether your leaning is Welling or Heybridge in much the same was as it would if you leaned toward Brighton, Nottingham and Derby or Leeds with one B.Clough.
People need to remember we Battered Macclesfield, Aldershot and Chester (none of that is up for debate) under Brown and got destroyed by refs and muggy players getting sent off and giving away penalties.
I would have Jody back in a heartbeat (and hes available after leaving Dagenham at the weekend) if he could bring in his own coaches, you know he has player contacts and also plays good football. He signed players like Anthony Jeffrey, Dom Vose etc on pennies.
Of course it wasn't all great (Darren Purse was utter gash and a liability and Nuneaton away was dreadful) but Players left before he came and he couldn't train or sign players for 4 or 5 games. Comparing Jody with people like Wheeler and Faz is doing him an injustice.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Monday 6th of January 2020 12:09:48 PM
People need to remember we Battered Macclesfield, Aldershot and Chester (none of that is up for debate) under Brown and got destroyed by refs and muggy players getting sent off and giving away penalties.
I would have Jody back in a heartbeat (and hes available after leaving Dagenham at the weekend) if he could bring in his own coaches, you know he has player contacts and also plays good football. He signed players like Anthony Jeffrey, Dom Vose etc on pennies.
Of course it wasn't all great (Darren Purse was utter gash and a liability and Nuneaton away was dreadful) but Players left before he came and he couldn't train or sign players for 4 or 5 games. Comparing Jody with people like Wheeler and Faz is doing him an injustice.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Monday 6th of January 2020 12:09:48 PM
Hahahahahaha.........thanks for your input Mrs Brown..
I only saw one of those games so can't comment on specifics. What I do remember is him bringing in has beens and taken off our best player (Vose) repeatedly after about 70 minutes and then watch us capitulate in the last 20 minutes on a routine basis and then wondering why we lost apart from the time when it was windy of course....
He drew one game in nine (and lost the other eight) and would have had us relegated that season had he stayed another week or two longer. Undoubtedly a better coach than the men who replaced him but the stats say different.
Him and Wheeler are very much on a par. Coaches with lots of badges but arrogant in the extreme and reckoned they were the non league Mourinho. Neither of them could run a bath...
People need to remember we Battered Macclesfield, Aldershot and Chester (none of that is up for debate) under Brown and got destroyed by refs and muggy players getting sent off and giving away penalties.
I would have Jody back in a heartbeat (and hes available after leaving Dagenham at the weekend) if he could bring in his own coaches, you know he has player contacts and also plays good football. He signed players like Anthony Jeffrey, Dom Vose etc on pennies.
Of course it wasn't all great (Darren Purse was utter gash and a liability and Nuneaton away was dreadful) but Players left before he came and he couldn't train or sign players for 4 or 5 games. Comparing Jody with people like Wheeler and Faz is doing him an injustice.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Monday 6th of January 2020 12:09:48 PM
Hahahahahaha.........thanks for your input Mrs Brown..
I only saw one of those games so can't comment on specifics. What I do remember is him bringing in has beens and taken off our best player (Vose) repeatedly after about 70 minutes and then watch us capitulate in the last 20 minutes on a routine basis and then wondering why we lost apart from the time when it was windy of course....
He drew one game in nine (and lost the other eight) and would have had us relegated that season had he stayed another week or two longer. Undoubtedly a better coach than the men who replaced him but the stats say different.
Him and Wheeler are very much on a par. Coaches with lots of badges but arrogant in the extreme and reckoned they were the non league Mourinho. Neither of them could run a bath...
As I said, a view you might find in Welling, less so in Heybridge I'd imagine.
I'm not particularly complemetary of the bollocks I saw under Neil Smith but it would be daft to say he couldn't manage now based on what Bromley are doing currently.
I am presuming you don't fail to learn from non-fatal bad experiences in your job and would be a bit aggrieved if you were only ever judged on that bad experiene?
Dom Vose killed us plenty of times giving the ball away. Hes also had more clubs than Tiger Woods since which suggests he was hardly the messiah (notwithstanding some of his excellent attacking play). He also called Jody a useless manager at one game which probably doesn't help his case.
How many of those games that we lost were down to giving away a penalty or laughable gaffs by Faz at Aldershot and Chris Bush at Macclesfield where we absolutely played both teams off their pitch? Or penalties conceded by Darren Purse etc? There were some unbelievable events in those games, Jody was bullish and confident, some would so over confident and i think that overshadowed the hard luck we had and the mad events in the games we lost. He only had about 5 or 6 games with his players and the performances were decent apart from stupid howlers costing us games and the gutless showing at Nuneaton. I am extremely confident that had Jody joined at the start of a pre season he would have been a success, I cannot disagree with you that we probably would have been relegated had he stayed as time was running out.
If he did return at some stage i would be reasonably confident he would do well. I am sure wherever he pops up he will show he isn't a bad manager, hes done ok since.
Tha'ts the thing, not many would have seen all of the games just seen the results.
People can watch the games or just look at the ends of the videos to see awful shocking howlers
We had red cards in other games and numerous penalties given away all in a handful of games. If you look at performances we were good under Brown, You would almost say we were throwing games such is the absurdity of the events in some games. Apart from the season we won the league playing 433 with pass and move football and rotation and lots of quality, the football played by Jody's team was amongst the best we have ever played.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Monday 6th of January 2020 01:33:47 PM