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Glad people turned up - this media led scare is going to trash the world economy. Death rate at something like 0.02% makes the whole thing a joke (a flu epidemic a few years ago killed 15000 in the UK and this crap wont reach 100)

I wonder what they want to achieve by acting like it is the end of the world


 Jesus, what chance have we got with the its only flu, lets all go down the pub brigade ffs, this will kill THOUSANDS in the UK.


 Like the flu does every single year...



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The difference between this and standard flu is that there is a vaccine against flu, so 8,000 or so who die from it are generally those who haven't had the vaccine. If they did, the majority of them would survive. If there was no vaccine, the annual death toll would have an added zero on the end.

There is currently no vaccine for Covid-19, and one is unlikely to be ready this year. Add to that the fact it is more virulent than standard flu and it follows that the mortality rate will be through the roof if we don't take steps to mitigate its spread throughout the population.

It's not really that difficult to understand...


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The difference between this and standard flu is that there is a vaccine against flu, so 8,000 or so who die from it are generally those who haven't had the vaccine. If they did, the majority of them would survive. If there was no vaccine, the annual death toll would have an added zero on the end.

There is currently no vaccine for Covid-19, and one is unlikely to be ready this year. Add to that the fact it is more virulent than standard flu and it follows that the mortality rate will be through the roof if we don't take steps to mitigate its spread throughout the population.

It's not really that difficult to understand...


 The flu vaccine only works againat certain strains because it is a virus and not a disease

We are burning down the house to kill a spider - a Cambridge Uni study has said this virus was here months ago and up to HALF of the population have had it. I had a stinker of a cold around xmas and I got over it - now that is coronavirus. 

In a couple of weeks when this blows over it will be like every other big event in history where everyone claims they had it eg I think the Twin Towers had about 6 million people in then before those planes hit

If you are getting on or have a condition then it isn't great but the flu can easily kill you - just look at all the flu epidemics that have happened. One a few years ago killed something like 15000 people in the UK! Just stop listening to the lying MSM who are wrecking lives through trashing the economy (and remember they are all stinking rich and still employed)

 

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Jesus, how stupid can you be?

260 dead in last 24 hours, new hospitals being built that can treat 4000 people yet J says not even 100 will die in total and its just flu and over reacting. I am absolutely lost for words. These will be the same people going round their mates houses or swanning about like its a holiday.



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          Death rate at something like 0.02% makes the whole thing a joke (a flu epidemic a few years ago killed 15000 in the UK and this crap wont reach 100)

In a couple of weeks when this blows over it will be like every other big event in history where everyone claims they had it eg I think the Twin Towers had about 6 million people in then before those planes hit


 



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Does flu kill over 9,000 (and counting) in Italy every year? Does flu cause hospitals in Madrid to overflow every year?

This is a serious virus, going far beyond a few people getting the sniffles.



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Does flu kill over 9,000 (and counting) in Italy every year? Does flu cause hospitals in Madrid to overflow every year?

This is a serious virus, going far beyond a few people getting the sniffles.


 Yes it does during a bad year! Just stop listening to the doom mongers in the msm

Our freedoms are being eroded like never before

Just read this

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-8163587/PETER-HITCHENS-Great-Panic-foolish-freedom-broken-economy-crippled.html

 

Just do a little bit of digging and you can see previous year's flu outbreaks to see how many die. Can people just please wake up and stop listening to the lying mainstream media (just remember how rich they are anfd a crumbling economy doesn't effect them)



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TheGhostOfJodyBrown wrote:

Jesus, how stupid can you be?

260 dead in last 24 hours, new hospitals being built that can treat 4000 people yet J says not even 100 will die in total and its just flu and over reacting. I am absolutely lost for words. These will be the same people going round their mates houses or swanning about like its a holiday.


 

Please just stop and think for a second - bad flu years kill 10000s and they happen often. The cure will be worse than the disease as Trump has said - a ruined economy will destroy more lives than a bad cold virus

 

Can people just stop listening to lying kunts in the media for 5 seconds - their "climate change" coverage is guff just like this flu virus. It is like everyone revels in this stuff when none of us will have jobs in a couple of months when it is all over



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Stupid post...REALLY stupid post

In fact so stupid that I have stupidly read it twice to check how stupid it really is

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Railing against the media by quoting a journalist is hilarious. Hitchens has his agenda just like the rest of them and I ignore all of them.

My job has allowed me to hear briefings by some of the country's top virologists and epidemiologists. They are just reporting the science and aren't pushing any particulate agenda. The fatality figures they quote if we do nothing are frightening. Forget tens of thousands and stick a nought on the end as a minimum.

I'll listen to what they say rather than any journalists or politicians, and act accordingly.

One plus about all this is that I've finally got time to read some books I picked up recently in a charity shop. Le Carre thriller or Eric Idle autobiog - hmmm




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Stupid post...REALLY stupid post

In fact so stupid that I have stupidly read it twice to check how stupid it really is


 Serious question - why?

The incoming economic collapse is going to destroy more lives than anything this flu will

there is no way the police will give up their extra powers either so welcome to police state Britain....everyone has lost their mind over this. Unless you have shed loads of money in the bank or a certain job then why are people not speaking out against this? Hipster "friday online partiez" will soon lose their appeal and even the journos pushing this will feel the pinch. The death rate is next to zero and flu epidemics every other year kill 10000s

 

Oh and that 19 year old who died from coronaviris without any health conditions was lies because she actually had a heart attack - damn please can we not walk into a horrible future over the ****ing flu



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Stupid post...REALLY stupid post

In fact so stupid that I have stupidly read it twice to check how stupid it really is


 Serious question - why?

The incoming economic collapse is going to destroy more lives than anything this flu will

there is no way the police will give up their extra powers either so welcome to police state Britain....everyone has lost their mind over this. Unless you have shed loads of money in the bank or a certain job then why are people not speaking out against this? Hipster "friday online partiez" will soon lose their appeal and even the journos pushing this will feel the pinch. The death rate is next to zero and flu epidemics every other year kill 10000s

 

Oh and that 19 year old who died from coronaviris without any health conditions was lies because she actually had a heart attack - damn please can we not walk into a horrible future over the ****ing flu


 



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I'm not a doctor but I think you nay have nissed the point. This isn't flu and there are disputes as to the number of people flu kills every year as I don't think NHE reports flu deaths and the government numbers are hotly disputed by some (on the basis that the additional winter deaths are not all attributable to flu). I accept the mortality rates aren't that high (last year was a good year with "only" 700000 deaths from aids most of which ought to be preventable). But isn't the issue that if we don't put these measures in place there is a risk that the NHS will be overwhelmed and that the very ill who may not die but need acute care may suffer or die? People aren't speaking out because they know the advice is the best advice that is out there at the moment, it's not a conspiracy theory and no government would serve do this if it wasn't necessary as it's really not in their interests to do this to the economy.



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J come back in 18 days and tell me the death rate is low and this wont even kill 100 in the UK. I really cannot believe that anyone can think this is all some game or control the peasants experiment.

I actually think they are keeping the death  rate artificially low at the moment till these nightingale hospitals are built and till they have more ventilators.



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380 dead yesterday 563 dead today in England, its only flu and a big over reaction according to some. Sadly some of those people would have helped spread it.

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