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TheGhostOfJodyBrown wrote:

 We are in deep trouble if the secretary has told the league our budget and thats what the league will pay us from the government. Those that saw what was happening and gave themselves a  couple of grand on top will be laughing. Those that never are up the creek and battling relegation.






-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Saturday 3rd of October 2020 08:50:15 PM


 This would have to be the most unfair way to divi up the payment. Rewards reckless budgets



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Can we spare a moment for this guy, who sounds like he is running out of breath (fking hate that style of commentary (hear it on goals' shows, is it a style now?)

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Treacle wrote:

I'd like to know why we are at any more of a disadvantage compared to the vast majority of teams at our level who for the most part seemed able to get themselves through against lower ranked opposition. We can appeal to fans to raise more money, blame the lack of budget etc.....but every single team in our league finds themselves in this position


 Interesting point   

 

 



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I generally thought we were ****. But I do think their game sharpness was good, and definitely helped them.

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Was poor.

Defence shocking. Centre backs were disinterested and disorganised

Midfield was playing in treacle.

Only players to come out with credit for me were dipo and wilksey.

They deserved it




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I dont know how other sides in the league will compare, however, the Welling United side of yesterday definitely had a bargain basement look about it, sadly lacking in drive, determination and quality. I am sure Brad Quinton prepared them well but they will need to up their game drastically on Tuesday or the likes of Porter will rip them apart. What happened to Petrov and Gordon from the original signings, both central defenders and we definitely need shoring up in that department.
It is good that we have some government money coming in but we all know, in monetary terms, the benefits that a good cup run can have. However, this has now been denied us, lets hope we can make a better fist of it in the league. We shall have a better idea after Tuesday.

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I'm not sure what has happened to Maidstone's squad but they were good value for the 3-1 down there late last season, at a time when we were playing decent football and still thought we were play off long shots. Based on what I've read here about the players we have at the moment, we could be in for an absolute splatting of the highest order on that plastic pitch ****e. Just a good job I won't be able to get wound up by those little chav pricks the other side of the stewards !!

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Badly need creativity as this side is so poor on this showing. Nassim L'Ghoul is looking for a team after release from Dover.

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Worse result in the clubs history end of


 Geting beaten 4-1 on your own pitch by a team three divisions below isn't? Am sure we got tanked serveral times at Butterfly Lane. Yesterday was not as significant, I'd argue, even in the current climate as the loss to Kingstonian in 1992 which made our qualification for the first round a lot more difficult until they changed the qualification system.



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Worse result in the clubs history end of


 Geting beaten 4-1 on your own pitch by a team three divisions below isn't? Am sure we got tanked serveral times at Butterfly Lane. Yesterday was not as significant, I'd argue, even in the current climate as the loss to Kingstonian in 1992 which made our qualification for the first round a lot more difficult until they changed the qualification system.


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Worse result in the clubs history end of


 Geting beaten 4-1 on your own pitch by a team three divisions below isn't? Am sure we got tanked serveral times at Butterfly Lane. Yesterday was not as significant, I'd argue, even in the current climate as the loss to Kingstonian in 1992 which made our qualification for the first round a lot more difficult until they changed the qualification system.


 Anyone that can defend yesterdays result and compare it to other very bad results for the club really needs to take their beer goggles off.

After how bad we were in pre season you could see this result coming unfortunately. 



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As one of those who managed to sneak in yesterday that performance was shocking, although their keeper had a few good saves, our strikers were looking unfit and uninterested. Rowan Liburd showed more in the last 10 minutes than the other two did the whole match. Of those who started only 2 or 3 got pass marks. Dan Wilks 8/10, Cookie 6/10 and Roan Liburd 8/10. The rest no better than 4/10. Watching Brad Quinton tear into them in the dugout after the final whistle Im not surprised he didnt want to do an after match interview. I doubt we will see half of that shower start on Tuesday v Maidstone.

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SH wrote:
stafford wrote:
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Worse result in the clubs history end of


 Geting beaten 4-1 on your own pitch by a team three divisions below isn't? Am sure we got tanked serveral times at Butterfly Lane. Yesterday was not as significant, I'd argue, even in the current climate as the loss to Kingstonian in 1992 which made our qualification for the first round a lot more difficult until they changed the qualification system.


 Anyone that can defend yesterdays result and compare it to other very bad results for the club really needs to take their beer goggles off.

After how bad we were in pre season you could see this result coming unfortunately. 



-- Edited by SH on Sunday 4th of October 2020 12:30:01 PM


 If it was aimed at me, do point  out where I was defending yesterday's performance?

I have 35 years of crap performances to compare it against which gives a certain perspective but still appears to be somewhat less than you are bringing to bear in your assessment.

I don't deal in hyperbole, even on the somewhat infamous subject of George Borg (for which it would undoubtably been most apt).



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stafford wrote:
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stafford wrote:
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Worse result in the clubs history end of


 Geting beaten 4-1 on your own pitch by a team three divisions below isn't? Am sure we got tanked serveral times at Butterfly Lane. Yesterday was not as significant, I'd argue, even in the current climate as the loss to Kingstonian in 1992 which made our qualification for the first round a lot more difficult until they changed the qualification system.


 Anyone that can defend yesterdays result and compare it to other very bad results for the club really needs to take their beer goggles off.

After how bad we were in pre season you could see this result coming unfortunately. 



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 If it was aimed at me, do point  out where I was defending yesterday's performance?

I have 35 years of crap performances to compare it against which gives a certain perspective but still appears to be somewhat less than you are bringing to bear in your assessment.

I don't deal in hyperbole, even on the somewhat infamous subject of George Borg (for which it would undoubtably been most apt).

 

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I'm still waiting for any well reasoned argument to be put forward as to why our position of being under prepared and damaged by COVID financially is any worse than practically any other club at our level - particularly those who didn't seem to have any problems with their 'banana skin' ties yesterday.

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I'm still waiting for any well reasoned argument to be put forward as to why our position of being under prepared and damaged by COVID financially is any worse than practically any other club at our level - particularly those who didn't seem to have any problems with their 'banana skin' ties yesterday.


 Because the club was in a financial mess before covid, home game attendances were not generating enough income to covering outgoings and if anything covid helped stop it being worse by not having to pay player wages. There were 7 games left 4 of which were away so would of been no income there, but then things like no charlton friendly etc haven't helped. 



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I hope the Wings fans travel home safely and those clowns at Welling Police enjoyed their taxpayer funded day out.

 


 Hate to say it Chris but not the taxpayer but the fans of both clubs. Would love to know if this happened at other step 2 away to lower league team or just us.



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I'm still waiting for any well reasoned argument to be put forward as to why our position of being under prepared and damaged by COVID financially is any worse than practically any other club at our level - particularly those who didn't seem to have any problems with their 'banana skin' ties yesterday.


 Because the club was in a financial mess before covid, home game attendances were not generating enough income to covering outgoings and if anything covid helped stop it being worse by not having to pay player wages. There were 7 games left 4 of which were away so would of been no income there, but then things like no charlton friendly etc haven't helped. 


 So basically no different to every other team that has pre season friendlies against larger clubs and who all spend somewhere between £4k and £6k per week in wages then



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The club has been poorly run under MG. It is still owned by MG and is not in a better financial shape and never will be so long as he has an interest in the club. End of.

Covid has hammered pretty much everyone financially, but in there have been savings. And Welling will be benefiting from a lower wage demand, lower outgoings, grants, payment holidays and i would image the deal with the brewery coincided with the old one being knocked and the new one giving a golden hello of some sort.

Jamieson is right in what he says: We have no excuse.

And for the police going to sheppey..... like lots of folk, they are trying to look busy at the moment. No fights up the high street on friday nights or ASB and crime is down in general, so they are drumming up business you could say!



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I'm still waiting for any well reasoned argument to be put forward as to why our position of being under prepared and damaged by COVID financially is any worse than practically any other club at our level - particularly those who didn't seem to have any problems with their 'banana skin' ties yesterday.


 In theory were not but i won't be surprised to see a gulf this year between the likes of us, tonbridge, st albans and dorking, dartford, havant, ebbsfleet who have still chucked money at building not just a decent first XI but a squad



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I'm still waiting for any well reasoned argument to be put forward as to why our position of being under prepared and damaged by COVID financially is any worse than practically any other club at our level - particularly those who didn't seem to have any problems with their 'banana skin' ties yesterday.


 Because the club was in a financial mess before covid, home game attendances were not generating enough income to covering outgoings and if anything covid helped stop it being worse by not having to pay player wages. There were 7 games left 4 of which were away so would of been no income there, but then things like no charlton friendly etc haven't helped. 


 So basically no different to every other team that has pre season friendlies against larger clubs and who all spend somewhere between £4k and £6k per week in wages then


 But they would of had money in reserve to keep the their core players. And be more organised commercially. I dont think anyone has brought in good players, but they've kept most of what they had.

Maidstone fielded 3 players yesterday that were on trial with them and I couldn't tell you anything about 1 of them.



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You've answered it - we're at absolute no commercial disadvantage whatsoever........we are just poorly run!

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I believe there were a couple of PCs at the Corinthian game



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Tonbridge supporters were attacked at Farnborough.



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Any signs of Chiori Johnson and Harold Joseph??? Hopefully theyre involved tonight.

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Would have been away to Eastbourne had we won on Saturday

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[video=https://twitter.com/JackA171293/status/1313579915149705216]

 

The CBs may be poor, but with Wilks (if he stays) there's none of this

twitter.com/JackA171293/status/1313579915149705216

 

 



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