As someone experiencing the same, albeit at a lower level, it does seem hugely pointless to fund clubs money from Government or Sport England and similar sources to make their grounds Covid safe, at considerable expense financially, and in time, to then close the grounds due to Covid anyway.
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Wanting people that care about Welling United running it, and not clowns.
Here we go then, So the family that says stuff this i'm travelling to be with my family over xmas from one end of the country to the other, not giving a toss if they pass on the virus. That's why lockdown has been a farce, far too many people think laws and guidelines and advice don't apply to them. We have all seen our neighbours, friends, family, schoolkids do what they like.
Too many people are selfish, thick or don't give a toss and just do what they like, What kind of person will ignore guidelines and laws to go to a football match risking passing on a virus that has locked down millions? The kind of person who doesn't give a toss about anyone else. Not only sticking fingers up at people who havent worked throught lockdown but potentially passing on a virus that kills people just so they can do what they like, whether thats football, socialising, partys or whatever.
I'm sure many people who have locked down compliantly so far will be straight on the phones when they see people flouting laws and rules over xmas and the new year. They are being taken the piss out of by the selfish and brainless.
There is absolutely no justification for people to go to partys , football or meet ups to get round a lockdown, especially when people haven't even been able to go to funerals etc. I am amazed people are even considering bunking in at Tier 2 clubs, mind you we have had loads of our fans go to away games bending rules or got into PVR to watch a game without a thought for people in Lockdown because they want to or feel like it.
Crack on.
-- Edited by TheGhostOfJodyBrown on Saturday 28th of November 2020 05:19:09 PM
1) I suspect you have been to a gathering of people in the past when you were feeling unwell but didn't know what you had. In that circumstance, how did you know that you did not have something transmissable with capability of killing someone at that gathering if they were showing reduced immunity to it? Other things are just as deadly as Covid to the wrong person. Did you ask the Government for advice on that occasion?
2) At the outset of restrictions in March, not much was known as to the virus and the efficacy of counter measures. Knowledge is now better and more widespread. A single source of knowledge is used to frame the restrictions using statistics that have been out of date at their time of presentation or a postulation of what might happen in certain circumstances but wasn't to be used as an example of what would happen (if I remember the twaddle surrounding that graph correctly). No other knowlege source is permitted or acknowledged despite that it might match what is actually going on. Or did that not happen?
3) Apparently it is quite alright for someone who has had to work in a public facing job for the duration to be exposed to the risk and subsidise other risk averse individuals into the bargain if diktat says they should? What say do they get in the risk they are exposed to or whether, in fact, it reasonable that others should be required to manage the same level of risk?
4) Presumably, by your logic, if the Government says lockdowns and the tier system should continue in perpetuity regardless of any other evidence, there will never come a point where you would question the wisdom of it? Otherwise you would have to admit you are thick, selfish or didn't give a toss, by the merit of your argument above.
5) Human nature is what it has been and will always be. The only way you get total compliance with anything is absolute enforcement and that normally requires inordinate resources. You are selfish if you don't comply? Some of the biggest leaps forward and biggest disasters in history have been made by people who were self centred and didn't comply. It is why you teach people to evaluate risk themselves so you get more of the former and less of the latter because, if you could stop them doing it by calling them selfish, you'd still be eating cold roots in a cave. Politics is generally making the probable work not proving that the unlikely doesn't.
Ghost makes a very simple point: Don't be a selfish **** and continue to adhere to the rules. The virus has no cure. It is fatal for many of the most precious and vulnerable in our society. Football shouldn't even be on IMO.
1) A very simple point does not take four paragraphs to espouse
2) I have long since not given a monkeys what anyone else on here thinks of me. If you wish to bask in warm glow of calling me what you have that is your choice but, now you have done it, what is the next point of your strategy to get me to where you want me to go.
3) By their nature, viruses do not have an external cure, only your own immune system. A myriad of other things are fatal to the most vulnerable that are not currently being addressed. The fact they might have died from something else treatable in the interim and not of Covid will be of scant consolation to them given that they are still dead.
It would be good to have an update (I will phone the club) on plans for the reduced numbers watching the games, the ticket plan and food / drink plan. I'd love to watch the games and put money into food / drink, but can I get a ticket? I have / had a season ticket, but pushed it back to next year. I heard the interview saying we are prepared, but if there is a game on Saturday I'm keen to know or how I can make sure I am there for the 12th.
Hi all, we should be able to announce details after tomorrow. We have an important call with the league and just need to finalise all the matchday return of supporters plan. Trust me this is no easy task working out our agreed capacity, serving food/drink, selling tickets, covid procedures for supporters and what to expect, as well as clear guidelines to follow.
Dartford can rent PVR for £20,000 a home game and have fans if they want....!!! :)
Well I guess someones got to fill your ground as we actually have a sizeable support. Your 500 should be ok to go back for games, lets be honest the players at welling probably have no clue youre not there, barely ever a crowd and certainly not a peep from the welling massive, or should it be miniscule.
as for 20k? That tin pot shed of an embarrassment of rot, wood and mould is barely worth 20p. The biggest toilet hole in the league.
i guess its fitting for you battle with relegation.
-- Edited by dfc on Monday 30th of November 2020 09:14:08 PM
Dartford can rent PVR for £20,000 a home game and have fans if they want....!!! :)
Well I guess someones got to fill your ground as we actually have a sizeable support. Your 500 should be ok to go back for games, lets be honest the players at welling probably have no clue youre not there, barely ever a crowd and certainly not a peep from the welling massive, or should it be miniscule.
as for 20k? That tin pot shed of an embarrassment of rot, wood and mould is barely worth 20p. The biggest toilet hole in the league.
i guess its fitting for you battle with relegation.
-- Edited by dfc on Monday 30th of November 2020 09:14:08 PM
And full houses, who on earth are you trying to kid. whats your average 5/600?
In the league you can only fill your depleting shed when we come to laugh at you and even then its us who fill it. You dont ever get full houses so dont embarrass yourself by thinking you can. Your support is a silent minority and thats being polite. I think you do well to get your 500.
-- Edited by dfc on Monday 30th of November 2020 09:21:28 PM
I wonder do any of our fans go on other clubs forums to troll. I often look at other forums and have not seen any adverse comments from our supporters.
Back on topic really looking forward to seeing our supporters back at PVR.
At Charlton if you got a ticket for tonights game, you are required to be in your seat at 6pm (for a 7.45 kickoff) and also to wear a face mask for the entire game. There will also be no food or drink available to purchase, it will be a very odd experience.
Not sure if there will need to be similar measures in place at Welling, so just FYI for now.
At Charlton if you got a ticket for tonights game, you are required to be in your seat at 6pm (for a 7.45 kickoff) and also to wear a face mask for the entire game. There will also be no food or drink available to purchase, it will be a very odd experience.
Not sure if there will need to be similar measures in place at Welling, so just FYI for now.
Interesting, is this a testing of measures match as I thought no fans were allowed in until tomorrow.
There is a post on the conference forum with links to government site detailing rules and regulations for starting back. Obviously LB Bexley may impose conditions but it does read as though fans can buy a drink without a meal. Also reads that no away fans should be allowed to attend.
Dartford can rent PVR for £20,000 a home game and have fans if they want....!!! :)
Well I guess someones got to fill your ground as we actually have a sizeable support. Your 500 should be ok to go back for games, lets be honest the players at welling probably have no clue youre not there, barely ever a crowd and certainly not a peep from the welling massive, or should it be miniscule.
as for 20k? That tin pot shed of an embarrassment of rot, wood and mould is barely worth 20p. The biggest toilet hole in the league.
i guess its fitting for you battle with relegation.
-- Edited by dfc on Monday 30th of November 2020 09:14:08 PM
And full houses, who on earth are you trying to kid. whats your average 5/600?
In the league you can only fill your depleting shed when we come to laugh at you and even then its us who fill it. You dont ever get full houses so dont embarrass yourself by thinking you can. Your support is a silent minority and thats being polite. I think you do well to get your 500.
-- Edited by dfc on Monday 30th of November 2020 09:21:28 PM
There have been many times over the past 30 years or so when Welling have laughed themselves silly at the expense of Dartford.
Incorrect about being there at 6. The gates don't open until 6.45. As for leaving, every venue will or should do this to prevent congestion at the exit.
Official Site is now confirming (see my earlier post) that the away match at Braintree is on Tuesday 8th December. No away fans permitted at this stage, so I am assuming if we get a home game on Saturday then that will be home fans only as well.
Incorrect about being there at 6. The gates don't open until 6.45. As for leaving, every venue will or should do this to prevent congestion at the exit.
Looks like it actually varies to allow for phased entries of groups of people, some are required to enter the ground 6, others at 6.45.
-- Edited by trev83 on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 03:44:19 PM
At Charlton if you got a ticket for tonights game, you are required to be in your seat at 6pm (for a 7.45 kickoff) and also to wear a face mask for the entire game. There will also be no food or drink available to purchase, it will be a very odd experience.
Not sure if there will need to be similar measures in place at Welling, so just FYI for now.
Interesting, is this a testing of measures match as I thought no fans were allowed in until tomorrow.
There is a post on the conference forum with links to government site detailing rules and regulations for starting back. Obviously LB Bexley may impose conditions but it does read as though fans can buy a drink without a meal. Also reads that no away fans should be allowed to attend.
Times are staggered, the tickets have an entry time. Food and drink, including alcohol is available and the 'substantial' meal part has been removed for football fixtures as long as the drink and / or food is consumed sitting down (although the rules say on the concourse). I assume Welling can do the same.
-- Edited by 50p head on Tuesday 1st of December 2020 06:28:31 PM
Official Site is now confirming (see my earlier post) that the away match at Braintree is on Tuesday 8th December. No away fans permitted at this stage, so I am assuming if we get a home game on Saturday then that will be home fans only as well.
If it continues with no away fans how would we know if someone living in a DA postcode is a wings supporter when we play Ebbsfleet or Dartford as many of their fans would also have DA codes.
Official Site is now confirming (see my earlier post) that the away match at Braintree is on Tuesday 8th December. No away fans permitted at this stage, so I am assuming if we get a home game on Saturday then that will be home fans only as well.
If it continues with no away fans how would we know if someone living in a DA postcode is a wings supporter when we play Ebbsfleet or Dartford as many of their fans would also have DA codes.
No way of policing that. If someone lives in tier 2 and buys a ticket that's that. I guess priority given to season ticket /wusa etc, then general sale
Speaking to someone who works for the funeral services just up the road from the ground on Thursday. They said that its been a normal year for the number of deaths, backed up by national stats. What they had seen was a rise in the number of suicides. They said we need to open things up and get on with live. Then if you want to hide from a virus with a 0.1 % fatality rate and an average age of death at 82.4, then crack on
Youre an idiot. You should be ashamed of yourself. Also you are spouting fake news. None of what you said is true regardless of where you heard this garbage or whatever youve made up.
im sure there are people on here and every forum have suffered heavily in various ways.
i like to wind you up in here but I wish every single person on here there very best tackling this killer virus thats destroying lives and livelihoods.
We all do our part and fight it together to beat it no matter who we are or where we come from and people like Sue can find a hole to live their pathetic existence.
I agree, when has a funeral parlour been the medical brains against this killer virus?? Just plain stupid to say such things. I should imagine it is the personal view of the poster, which is fine. Anti-vaccine people, tracking chips in vaccine, hoax virus, done to make money for Tory mates and Big Pharma. Theres some strange people out there. We need to look out for each other and follow the rules, just like what happened at PVR today. Not a bad performance considering the recent self isolation.