Thank you for making my point. No need to spend when it's not necessary.
Wasting money is never wise. Although there is a difference between wasting and just simply refusing to spend or provide what is adequate for the level.
I'd prefer to look at it that failing to invest, and essentially from your comments being happy to exist, to just survive, to just finish one point or one goal difference point above what is necessary to avoid being bottom, is going to do a few things - make next season even more difficult, cost you the manager and the players you might want to retain as they are tired of being alongside those not good enough, and make recruitment of the necessary next season when the bottom 4 go down, and therefore the bottom half will all be looking over their shoulder well in to March 2023, a long painful experience.
And what of the fans, the hardcore and the casual. How motivational for them all to know that those in the club, or close to the club, and happy to just do the absolute minimum to survive.
Why strive to be the best you can be, when you can just settle for not being the worst. 2nd last, what a plan.
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Wanting people that care about Welling United running it, and not clowns.
What a truly sad state of affairs. What has this owner done to our precious club?
I've never known us in such a sorry state in the 34 years or so that have passed since my first Welling match. This is certainly the worst team that has been assembled in all this time and where does it all end?
Anyone blaming the manager.....seriously? Quinton, Lovell and Taylor are all easily talented enough at this level to make a decent side on a reasonable budget and yet here we go again. We all know what the real issue is......if none of those 3 are capable of holding down the job then its blindingly obvious what the issue is.
Nobody expects us to be outspending every team and winning the league, but take a look at a team like Hungerford Town - 9 points above us, top half, crowds of c. 200, playing on little more than a Kent league ground and never played at the top tier of non league football. How do they manage it? Ditto Chippenham Town.
I take a look at my betting slip these days and if we're playing anyone top half away from home I just go for a -2 on the handicap and I'm very rarely not able to make money from it. Just rinsing after rinsing week after week. 46 goals conceded and by far the worst goal difference in the league.......are we really not capable of better than that.
I'm not close enough to the ownership situation to know if change is coming, but if its not then I certainly see enough evidence to suggest that if not this season, but definitely the following, the club will be playing football at a level I've never seen before. All sounds like MG's days at Palace - arrive in a blaze of glory, promise the earth, early promise before utlimately wrecking the club. Terrible times.....and all very sad
-- Edited by Treacle on Sunday 2nd of January 2022 11:19:08 AM
What a truly sad state of affairs. What has this owner done to our precious club?
I've never known us in such a sorry state in the 34 years or so that have passed since my first Welling match. This is certainly the worst team that has been assembled in all this time and where does it all end?
Anyone blaming the manager.....seriously? Quinton, Lovell and Taylor are all easily talented enough at this level to make a decent side on a reasonable budget and yet here we go again. We all know what the real issue is......if none of those 3 are capable of holding down the job then its blindingly obvious what the issue is.
Nobody expects us to be outspending every team and winning the league, but take a look at a team like Hungerford Town - 9 points above us, top half, crowds of c. 200, playing on little more than a Kent league ground and never played at the top tier of non league football. How do they manage it? Ditto Chippenham Town.
I take a look at my betting slip these days and if we're playing anyone top half away from home I just go for a -2 on the handicap and I'm very rarely not able to make money from it. Just rinsing after rinsing week after week. 46 goals conceded and by far the worst goal difference in the league.......are we really not capable of better than that.
I'm not close enough to the ownership situation to know if change is coming, but if its not then I certainly see enough evidence to suggest that if not this season, but definitely the following, the club will be playing football at a level I've never seen before. All sounds like MG's days at Palace - arrive in a blaze of glory, promise the earth, early promise before utlimately wrecking the club. Terrible times.....and all very sad
-- Edited by Treacle on Sunday 2nd of January 2022 11:19:08 AM
Its very selective of you to pick out Hungerford and Chippenham as being clubs with lower crowds than us who are doing better. There are dozens of clubs in the leagues below with larger crowds and/or larger budets. Just because we have been at this level and above for so long does not give us an automatic right to continue here.
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What a truly sad state of affairs. What has this owner done to our precious club?
I've never known us in such a sorry state in the 34 years or so that have passed since my first Welling match. This is certainly the worst team that has been assembled in all this time and where does it all end?
Anyone blaming the manager.....seriously? Quinton, Lovell and Taylor are all easily talented enough at this level to make a decent side on a reasonable budget and yet here we go again. We all know what the real issue is......if none of those 3 are capable of holding down the job then its blindingly obvious what the issue is.
Nobody expects us to be outspending every team and winning the league, but take a look at a team like Hungerford Town - 9 points above us, top half, crowds of c. 200, playing on little more than a Kent league ground and never played at the top tier of non league football. How do they manage it? Ditto Chippenham Town.
I take a look at my betting slip these days and if we're playing anyone top half away from home I just go for a -2 on the handicap and I'm very rarely not able to make money from it. Just rinsing after rinsing week after week. 46 goals conceded and by far the worst goal difference in the league.......are we really not capable of better than that.
I'm not close enough to the ownership situation to know if change is coming, but if its not then I certainly see enough evidence to suggest that if not this season, but definitely the following, the club will be playing football at a level I've never seen before. All sounds like MG's days at Palace - arrive in a blaze of glory, promise the earth, early promise before utlimately wrecking the club. Terrible times.....and all very sad
-- Edited by Treacle on Sunday 2nd of January 2022 11:19:08 AM
Its very selective of you to pick out Hungerford and Chippenham as being clubs with lower crowds than us who are doing better. There are dozens of clubs in the leagues below with larger crowds and/or larger budets. Just because we have been at this level and above for so long does not give us an automatic right to continue here.
There's never been a divine right to anything in football - you're missing the point. When the owner fired Lovell, he himself said that he felt we should be performing better with the squad/budget we had. He's gone through how many managers in recent years (including himself)? Nice result against Dulwich but a rarity amongst a continual series of beatings. How long before MG uses this manager as the latest scapegoat?
The point is that the owner himself thinks we should be doing better......and yet there are teams with smaller/comparable budgets doing even better. I wonder how many managers he'll burn through before he finds the one that meets expectations......
I wonder how many managers he'll burn through before he finds the one that meets expectations......
Well if he's stupid enough to sack Taylor this season when he looks set to keep us up despite inheriting a total shambles that will be enough for me- I will join the MG Out brigade and cease attending PVR. It would be an embarrassment to the clubs reputation. This season is a right off in terms of challenging for promotion and it was in August. Realistically it always will be until our crumbling ground is modernised.
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I wonder how many managers he'll burn through before he finds the one that meets expectations......
Well if he's stupid enough to sack Taylor this season when he looks set to keep us up despite inheriting a total shambles that will be enough for me- I will join the MG Out brigade and cease attending PVR. It would be an embarrassment to the clubs reputation. This season is a right off in terms of challenging for promotion and it was in August. Realistically it always will be until our crumbling ground is modernised.
I wouldn't rule it out - maybe not this season, but if PT is still at the helm next season it would only take a few dodgy results and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I thought BQ was a decent manager doing the job in difficult circumstances.
I wonder how many managers he'll burn through before he finds the one that meets expectations......
Well if he's stupid enough to sack Taylor this season when he looks set to keep us up despite inheriting a total shambles that will be enough for me- I will join the MG Out brigade and cease attending PVR. It would be an embarrassment to the clubs reputation. This season is a right off in terms of challenging for promotion and it was in August. Realistically it always will be until our crumbling ground is modernised.
I wouldn't rule it out - maybe not this season, but if PT is still at the helm next season it would only take a few dodgy results and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. I thought BQ was a decent manager doing the job in difficult circumstances.
Agree with pretty much everything you have said treacle. The last three managers haven't really had the tools to do the job I.e. the players brought in , Recruitment etc. Unfortunately in London I do think a lot of this comes back to budget and money. I think the reason perhaps the likes of Hungerford and Chippenham do okay probably on similar financial terms to us is geography i.e. players who reside locally more likely to play for them being the higher level teams in their respective areas with less competition for their signatures.
Whether MG likes to admit it or not nothing will change until a different ownership is in place.
Its a sinking ship on and off the field, Mgs silence makes it 10times worse, not one word on how he's gonna improve anything on or off the field.
Take Gillingham for example, scally is hated and they are probably going down, their crowds for home games are below 3000 which is embarrassing, it's less than half they were getting not long ago, yet he still comes out and speaks, still tries to state his case and fight his battles.
Mgs silence either means he don't care or he knows he is wrong, either way both means he should sell up and move on and let the club and new owner have a fresh start to see if we cam start heading in the right direction.