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Get the champagne out.



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Welling United can confirm that Warren Feeney has left his position as first-team Manager.

Feeney arrived at Park View Road in March 2022 and guided the Wings to survival in the National League South, before overseeing a season of stability in 2022/23, with his side finishing 16th.

The club would like to thank Warren for all of his efforts during his time at Welling and wish him all the very best for the future.

He will, however, act in an ambassadorial role for the club, offering his advice where necessary.

Speaking following his departure, Feeney has provided the following statement:

With a heavy heart, I have decided to step away from Welling. I have been offered a new challenge that I just couldnt turn down.

My stats stand for themselves regarding the ups and downs of coming in at a difficult time to save the club. I, with a heavy heart, would like to thank my players, my staff and all the fans.

Special mention to the board and Mark Goldberg, Jerry Dolke and my great friend Andy. I want to give big mention to my friend for life, and what an honest soldier he was, in Jake Winchester who stood side by side with me through it all and for every emotion.

And to my boss in the club who fully believed in me and was more than a boss to me. It was the most difficult decision I had to make when telling him about my decision. What a great man and Im proud to call you a friend and more for life.

Good luck in your next adventure. Up the Wings.

The process to recruit a new first-team Manager at Welling United will begin immediately.

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Long overdue. Next appointment is crucial

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Wow. I am not kidding, I never saw this coming, I thought his bond with the owners was so strong little irrelevancies like Warren leading one of the best squads in the league last season to underperform and finish 9th from bottom would be overlooked by the owners, as they were overly close to him, and had lost sight of the fact this is a results business.

Well a big (and extremely surprised but welcome) thanks to the board for making this decision, it would have been easy to carry on last season's uninspiring managerial self preservation "aim low one so can't miss ones target" aimless complacency ("we will play each game and see where it gets us", total contrast to Dartford with Dowson's inspiring and motivating "we are going for a play off spot, what is the point of playing if one does not go for a play off spot and if I dont get us there sack me").

I renewed my season ticket this morning, long before the change of manager news broke, as I was looking at it as a hopefully no loss situation, if Warren stayed and did well, fab! If he did badly and was sacked, then hopefuly his replacement would succeed.

Today was the (original) deadline for season ticket renewals at last season's price and only me one other fan were there at office opening time, so I guess season ticket sales have been low due to the Feeney factor.

Only Jamie Seedless White has been announced as joining another club, and I am sure behind the scenes our players from last season will have said they want to re-sign, but not if Warren is still managing. So let's hope we soon hear lots of players are now re-signing. I hold my hands up my posts are sometimes too long, so I will write a separate post to thank Warren for what he has done for us, as when the dust settles, there were some big positives from his time with us.



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Johnny Hartley wrote:

... Well a big (and extremely surprised but welcome) thanks to the board for making this decision....

 

Thanks to the board? He left by choice by the sound of it, which in itself is worrying! 



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Exactly Graham....this isn't a Welling decision.....now we really do need to get it right and quickly as there really is not very long to build a squad

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I find it worrying hes still involved as ambassador

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The next appointment will be a window into the actual ambitions the current owners have for the club.
Will we look to be proactive and imaginative or will it be yet another Bromley old boy on the payroll doing what hes told and keeping his mouth shut.

All the same it cant be as dull as the football served up under WF so we can at least thank God for small mercies.

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OK, when Warren took over from Peter Taylor we were hopeless, making clumsy tackles that conceded free kicks that the opposition scored from. Warren came in, and immediately recognised that the squad lacked "quality", so he rebuilt the side, and got us the points from his 10 games with us that season to keep us up, which was a major achievement, bearing in mind he had no preparatory time to get his new team to gel.

In the new 2022-23 season he then rebuilt his team a second time, adding tons of quality and experience to the squad, as well as giving opportunities to lots of comparatively inexperienced players. The first 2 months with a virtually totally new side were great, arguably because fixtures gave us games against teams who hadn't quickly gelled, then 6 months of underperformance, then 2 months of mostly outstanding football. Welling finished reasonably clear of relegation due to that last 2 months improvement, and the great season start, so Warren brought some stability, even though it may not have felt like that at the time.

We won't know for sure, as Warren plays his cards so close to his chest, but I hope he has learned so much from this season. His arrogant dismissal of the fans as "noise" and his challenging fans to fight him was pathetic, if he wants to be taken seriously as a manager he needs to immediately drop that. My advice to Warren is play the managerial game. I loved the honesty of a player I heard on Talksport saying after a game walk to the fans and clap the fans 5 times, then concentrate on the next match. So I'd advise Warren, if you think fans make noise, keep that view to yourself, and just play the managerial game, clap the fans at your next club after a match, and dont spend your time getting your own back by slagging them off in interviews for not understanding football. Believe me, fans understand football.

Managing is a thankless task, everyone thinks they can do it better than everyone else. But keeping a team energy high training session after training session, match after match, is bloody hard. If he looks back on it, he will realise he was his own worst enemy. Hopefully he will cut out those mistakes. He left his family in Ireland to focus on Welling, and that is remarkable commitment, more than anyone else. Welling last season were inconsistent. Warren as a manager is inconsistent, some great side, some really bad sides. But I hope that many years from now when he looks back on his managerial career he will think that Welling is the team that really made his grow up as a manager.

I heard someone talk about a manager, and say that manager's problem is they still thought they were the team captain. I think that is the case with Warren, still trying to influence what happens on the pitch as if he were playing the game.

We could so easily have been relegated last season, and Warren kept us up. Relegation is a bitch, so hard to recover from, we were relegated from the National division 6/7 years ago, and look years away from being competitive enough to get back up. Billericay went down instead of us last season, and they were in mid table nowhereland last season, so wont be quickly back either.

It is too easy to have Warren as the pantomime villain to boo, but facts are facts, he kept us up last season with a horrible fixture list to deal with, added tons of quality in the season just finished, and again kept us up. Thank goodness the toxicity is over, well, I hope it is. When I spoke to Warren towards the end of the season he said "you're killing me" about my criticism of him. But what he never understood about me is it was never personal, just that I was frustrated to see him shoot himself and the club in the foot with his silly behaviour, as I knew if he cut that out he would be a really good manager. Like say Grealish has realised he needs to behave professionally, Warren needs to realise that too. All the best Warren.



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Wellingmarshmellow wrote:

I find it worrying hes still involved as ambassador

 Very.  Think it's a better way of saying his finger remains in the pie for the USA link up thing.  I'll say it now to hopefully be wrong with this prediction; wouldn't be surprised if our next boss doesn't work out and it doesn't work for feeney at his new club - he'll be back in the dugout.

Overall I think the statement says a lot about the board and their enabling feeney to do as he pleased and not be held to account.

Seeing as Jerry dolke done wonders for bromley I'm surprised.



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Warrens new job
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Warrens new job
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Was always likely to return to NI. Missus and kids and life over there. Wish him the best

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A reason I was so surprised by the change of manager announcement is at the ground yesterday morning to pay for my season ticket I had a general chat and one thing mentioned was last season Warren had been playing players he had been given to manage, whereas in the coming season he was making signings and could use the experience of seeing players in action in our league to do so, so it really seemed he was staying. That signing Lewis White being an example of signing players that played really impressively against us.

But I hope things have ended amicably behind the scenes, and Warren can still share his signing recommendations, as I still feel he has the knowledge of what qualities are needed in successful players, and we could still benefit from that, but I just don't think he has the self control needed in a manager for us in such a pressurised sport like football, where criticism is part of the job, but he does not deal with that at all well.

Warren used to manage Linfield, who are his new team Glentoran's big local rivals, so already the Glentoran fans are up in arms about Warren's appointment. Glentoran appointed him because he has international experience as a player and manager. With Warren's explosive nature and dislike of fans, and their mutual dislike of the unwanted manager, it will be chaos unless he stops being so antagonistic, but that is so much part of his nature it is hard to see that appointment having a happy ending.

While there I said a quick hello in passing to Paul Whitehead, there overseeing renovation of our changing rooms. I am always deeply impressed with Paul's dedicated hands on approach to the club. As his stepping down as chairman in March was never formally announced, maybe that withdrawal could be quietly withdrawn, as Paul seemed to be the only person speaking honest sense last season, and since he stepped down in March so many bad things went on unchecked by the owners, so it would be great if Paul can have the sound platform as a chairman he deserves.

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For what it's worth, I'm sad that Warren is leaving and would like to thank him for his time at Welling.

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Glentoran have qualified for Europe also. A mid week trip to Kosovo trumps a mid week London Challenge cup trip to East London

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I bet this guy isnt as happy at the news of Feeneys Welling departure as most of us are



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Jamo wrote:

I bet this guy isnt as happy at the news of Feeneys Welling departure as most of us are

 Wow don't hold back mate.



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Oh Happy Day!

The fan hating, condescending, aggressive Feeney has gone. How he'll be missed - said no-one ever

The ambassador thing is either to save his or the clubs blushes, or this USA link up thing, because once he's in this Glentoran role full time, he won't have any time for any of that. Thank Christ for that too - can you imagine a worse ambassador!

Just hope we get the right man now - someone who has got an ounce of tactical nous, plays attractive football and actually knows something (errr anything) about football at this level of the pyramid. Someone who doesn't mind his own fans might be nice too!

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I don't post on Twitter as my messages are a touch too long for that platform, but I sometimes read what is posted there, and the responses to Warren's departure will bring you a smile twitter.com/wellingunited/status/1665793295119687689

My favourite expert analysis comment is the offensive hidden one from Glentoran fan GlentoranLJAT.

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There is an unofficial as well as official Glentoran twitter account. Makes some interesting reading. This photo was on the official one.2E6B7767-1BB3-4B60-ADDA-FB280BE1C4AA.png



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If you look on the Glentoran FC Facebook page they are really happy to have him....

You have some people saying he was a nice guy at school ,so 25 years ago he was nice WTF (Sort of pointless message JH would post)

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I want to put on record I am very sad to see Warren Feeney leave Welling United.

He was a good manager for us and stopped our relegation in 2022/23 and I believe made progress for the club last season.

It is best for him the man to return to Northern Ireland and be reunited with his family. We should appreciate he made that sacrifice for our club. It is also better for the majority of fans that disliked him.

I will be keeping an eye on the Glentoran results and hope they do well next season and wish Warren every success in his new job. I thank him for everything he did for Welling United.

Whoever the new manager turns out to be I will support him as I know he will be trying to do his best for the club. I urge my fellow fans to do the same. If things don't go right from the start let's give him time. Stand behind him and support him

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Alan....surely it would be nice to get it right from the start just once....otherwise we will have another season of looking down not up

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Warren was a nice guy at school 25 years ago.

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Alan wrote:

I want to put on record I am very sad to see Warren Feeney leave Welling United.

He was a good manager for us and stopped our relegation in 2022/23 and I believe made progress for the club last season.

It is best for him the man to return to Northern Ireland and be reunited with his family. We should appreciate he made that sacrifice for our club. It is also better for the majority of fans that disliked him.

I will be keeping an eye on the Glentoran results and hope they do well next season and wish Warren every success in his new job. I thank him for everything he did for Welling United.

Whoever the new manager turns out to be I will support him as I know he will be trying to do his best for the club. I urge my fellow fans to do the same. If things don't go right from the start let's give him time. Stand behind him and support him

 Rather like when we stayed up under Loui Faz a few years back that was as much down to the incompetence of Alfreton Town as much as anything we did. Similarly in the 2021-22 season we stayed up largely due to the incompetence of Billericay Town and Jody Brown more than any other reason. To improve on that with the budget we had last season was not exactly difficult was it..?!

Managers manage all over the world and WF has played and managed all around the UK and abroad for many many years so it's not exactly a sacrifice as he chose to accept those jobs.. It's a good opportunity for him and I hope it works out.

 



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This is my last detailed post on this subject, as there are now more important things to think about, as it is better to look forward at the future with our new manager and our happy escape from nonsense, toxicity and aggro.

OK, naming no names, but I know an ex manager we all love dearly, called Big Time Charlie, who loves to make false attacks on people that dont worship him, ie I'd said I was cutting back on drinking, to try to make me look bad he maliciously said I'd said I was an alcoholic!

As he was off to pastures new I had a quick word to wish him well, as I appreciated what he did as despite everything, he (just about!) left us stronger than when he arrived. He is fuelled by grudges, so then lied when he told me I'd lied to make myself popular, which was doubly amusing, as I don't lie, and I'm not bothered about popularity. So when I picked him up on his lie, as I never tell lies, and asked what it was I had supposedly lied about, he said it was my saying he had been sacked from a previous role. I pointed out at the time he left he had won 3/17 games and was bottom of the table. He then came up with his normal falsity of the other teams having 40 times his budget (it has increased from 35 times the previous time he made that line of excuse, his lies get wilder and wilder) and I said I didn't buy that, as some clubs may have had a much bigger budget, but not all.

He complained I had raised my concerns to the board behind his back, but I pointed out he cuts off contact so there is no way to have normal sensible one to ones in private, so I had no option than to go down that public route.

His ego makes him think everything only revolves around him, saying his concern was Welling will be finished as the boss has no interest because this (egomaniac) manager has left! The unnamed manager said we'd be relegated this season and it would be the fans' fault.

Yet strangely enough the club will get on very well without Big Time Charlie. That's the past wrapped up, now to concentrate on our club's happy present and future!

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Do you ever worry about your obsession with Warren?



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JH thank you for your detailed report on your final conversations with Mr Feeney. I am sure we should all like you to now let the matter drop. He is now the problem of Glentoran FC and there is enough going on around Welling United to get your teeth into. New manager, perhaps new beginnings and a run up to the league kick off which I believe you will favour us with your views!



-- Edited by RonF on Tuesday 13th of June 2023 09:29:23 PM

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Johnny Hartley wrote:

This is my last detailed post on this subject, as there are now more important things to think about, as it is better to look forward at the future with our new manager and our happy escape from nonsense, toxicity and aggro.

OK, naming no names, but I know an ex manager we all love dearly, called Big Time Charlie, who loves to make false attacks on people that dont worship him, ie I'd said I was cutting back on drinking, to try to make me look bad he maliciously said I'd said I was an alcoholic!

As he was off to pastures new I had a quick word to wish him well, as I appreciated what he did as despite everything, he (just about!) left us stronger than when he arrived. He is fuelled by grudges, so then lied when he told me I'd lied to make myself popular, which was doubly amusing, as I don't lie, and I'm not bothered about popularity. So when I picked him up on his lie, as I never tell lies, and asked what it was I had supposedly lied about, he said it was my saying he had been sacked from a previous role. I pointed out at the time he left he had won 3/17 games and was bottom of the table. He then came up with his normal falsity of the other teams having 40 times his budget (it has increased from 35 times the previous time he made that line of excuse, his lies get wilder and wilder) and I said I didn't buy that, as some clubs may have had a much bigger budget, but not all.

He complained I had raised my concerns to the board behind his back, but I pointed out he cuts off contact so there is no way to have normal sensible one to ones in private, so I had no option than to go down that public route.

His ego makes him think everything only revolves around him, saying his concern was Welling will be finished as the boss has no interest because this (egomaniac) manager has left! The unnamed manager said we'd be relegated this season and it would be the fans' fault.

Yet strangely enough the club will get on very well without Big Time Charlie. That's the past wrapped up, now to concentrate on our club's happy present and future!

 I have to ask out of curiosity.  How and when have you been speaking to him.  I thought there was a whole derbarkle earlier in the year where you said you hadn't had a call with him or something like that.

 

 



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I guess some people didn't read the part where I said,

"This is my last detailed post on this subject, as there are now more important things to think about, as it is better to look forward at the future with our new manager and our happy escape from nonsense, toxicity and aggro."

From my point of view, his underperformance wasted the players' and fans' time last season, so I am not interested in wasting any more time on him, as he is the Welling past, and I am looking this season at Welling's exciting present and future. So that is the line drawn under all that, now onto more important things than a deeply flawed former manager. As for Warren's future, it is predictable now the owner has had a closer look at him and realised what he brings to a club and its fans, www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65895119





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Johnny Hartley wrote:

I guess some people didn't read the part where I said,

"This is my last detailed post on this subject, as there are now more important things to think about, as it is better to look forward at the future with our new manager and our happy escape from nonsense, toxicity and aggro."

From my point of view, his underperformance wasted the players' and fans' time last season, so I am not interested in wasting any more time on him, as he is the Welling past, and I am looking this season at Welling's exciting present and future. So that is the line drawn under all that, now onto more important things than a deeply flawed former manager. As for Warren's future, it is predictable now the owner has had a closer look at him and realised what he brings to a club and its fans, www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65895119


"Some people" read your posts meticulously. The key word above is detailed, which indicates there may be more, less detailed, comments to come. However, I am pleased to see that from now on you will not be wasting your, or our time, on the matter. 

 



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Glentoran lost at home last night, animated scenes at end of game, crowd angry at constant long ball, Feeney luck to stay on pitch at the end.
Sound familiar?



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He's a repeat cycle at all clubs that always means things go wrong for him. Step 1, alienate fans by saying they don't understand football and he does not care what they think. Step 2, alienate players by joining the club and saying players need to be mentally tougher, then step 3 after losing throw players under the bus by saying they are not mentally tough enough for this level of football. He is finding it hard to attract players, I wonder why?

Football is a funny small world, the same people keep popping up. When he joined us he criticised Dartford, then suddenly became very nice about them. I wondered, was he trying to be on their good books, maybe hoping one day to manage them? Wouldn't it be hilarious if that happened, imagine the fun of a Welling game against a Dartford team managed by Feeney! Mind you, that would be a guaranteed 3 points for us! And a guaranteed red card for him! And Alan singing "We want Feeney back, I said we want Feeney back" We need more Alan, I like how he goes against the flow, the only one to back Warren, the only one to disapprove of Danny!

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Glentoran 2 Crusaders 2.

Red card for the home team manager.

Verdict: Predictable 



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Wingnut wrote:

Glentoran 2 Crusaders 2.

Red card for the home team manager.

Verdict: Predictable 

 His go to way of getting back into the changing room well before the fans can give him verbals 



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I don't disapprove of Danny. I was worried by the early games especially Truro away because he made fundamental errors in picking a player who was clearly injured and substituting a player after only 15 minutes, possibly destroying his confidence. We also lost to teams I expect to be struggling and losing your first 4 games is worrying. I have always wanted Danny to succeed as I do any Welling United manager. I have put on record that I like Warren Feeney and I stand by that. I am grateful to him for keeping us in National League South. It always goes unsaid that his win ratio was 42%. Which higher than both Steve Lovell, Peter Taylor and so far Danny Bloor, though I hope that changes. Would I want Warren Feeney back? No. Not because I like one more than the other or think one is a better manager than the other but because Danny Bloor is our current manager and I want us to keep the same manager for a longer period of time to create stability. We can't keep chopping and changing and starting again. Time and time again we have done that and every time it has put us behind the other teams in our division. Including this season where we've lost our first 4 games and 12 points.

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It was just over 30% his win record, and with the highest ever budget the club has ever had by quite some distance....

That win % with that budget is quite frankly a disgrace. That budget would have got you playoffs in the league above.... not fighting relegation in the Conference South.

Verdict: Massively under performed.

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Polo wrote:

It was just over 30% his win record, and with the highest ever budget the club has ever had by quite some distance....

That win % with that budget is quite frankly a disgrace. That budget would have got you playoffs in the league above.... not fighting relegation in the Conference South.

Verdict: Massively under performed.

 Playing shocking football and alienating a loyal fanbase along the way too.  Makes me laugh and cry all at once when people slander the name of Steve King for being a "money man". Well he wasn't spending as much as Feeney was in the first half of last season, and got us within a whisker of promotion playing delightful football all season too. The last time we had the right combination of manager and budget in my opinion. When I watched last night's game one can only wonder what Danny would be doing with a Feeney/King budget?  Poor fella is stuck with either a 17 year old academy forward and a 19 year old from Aldershot, whilst Feeney was spunking money up the wall on the likes of Payne who spent more time in the ref's notebook than scoring goals. Such a shame - feel for Danny



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