No idea what Danny's view is, but on pre season play my injury free team selection would be

Ben Winterbottom

Crossley Lema
Mitchell Dickinson
Taofiq Olumowuwe
Jack Burchill

Will Wood
James Vaughan
Antony Papadopoulos
Lewis White
TJ Bramble

Alex McAllister

But by the end of the season David Kamara, Sam Bayford, as well as others who will make their mark over time, will be regular first team players, as the departure of Sadik Balarabe shows Danny is looking to continually improve the team.

The big thing is if one signs certain experienced players they are already as good as they will ever be, whereas if one has young players they have so much potential to improve, so as the season goes on we will improve so much as the kids who arent really ready yet gradually get experience.

-- Edited by Jimmie on Friday 4th of August 2023 09:30:05 PM

This is embarrassing, and painful to listen to.

-- Edited by SE18 on Saturday 5th of August 2023 03:23:34 PM

As much as you want to be positive at start, today was always going to be tough. 1st time our back 4 have played together, I am surprised Dickinson started, he can't be match fit. They have kept pretty much all their squad together coming off a good season.
Danny will learn a lot today about his squad, and they will learn about each other. Right it off, right the wrongs next Saturday. 5 - 1 at H/T is a shambles but maybe this is what Danny needs to see, see how we react 2nd half and learn about his players.

He said there would be ups and downs....looks like an early down.....

God help us

10 of our starters made league debuts for us, another debut was made in the second half. Letting in 5 first half goals is obviously no good, but at least we didnt concede in the second half. This will be a season of two parts, first gelling, then hopefully really doing well, so the big uncertainty is just how long the gelling time will take. I just hope we dont have a slow start and fall so far behind we can't catch up. But Danny has shown what he can do with an experienced team, and use his tactical skills, his team last season fell behind 27 times, then turned it round and won 7 of these and drew once. Welling fell behind 21 times, and because of a rubbish Plan A only turned results a couple of times - won 2 and drew 2. Danny's side last season took the lead 31 times, holding on to win 22 times, drawing 5. So once he gets a settled side with us we'll be fine. And he and the squad are learning without really having had much time to prepare, so are having to learn in league games, against much more experienced teams, but we will catch them up in experience in due course. We've now got two home games in a row, and there are positives, yes, we lost, but we lost to the team that are top of the table. And we're only 3 points off the top! And only a point behind Dartfart!

Not good signs in the way the team played, too many individuals. The defence was particularly weak and powder puff up front. 2 or 3 decent performances in midfield. Problem is that Truro will be one of the weaker teams and they took us apart and cruised through the second half. I'm sure it'll get better.

Well, that was a complete mismatch in the 1st half. The early goal seemed to knock us for six and, when we conceded again, we looked completely out of our depth. Truro were far stronger and found themselves 3-0 up before we had even managed a single shot! We then produced a nice move which saw a neat finish to make it 3-1. Any glimmer of hope was short lived as we soon found ourselves trailing 5-1. We simply couldn't cope with Truro & thank goodness the whistle went for half time. It was terrible. We came out well early for the 2nd half and immediately played with more urgency. Our no. 20, Tanga, was on the ball a fair bit and we actually looked a threat at times. At least we were getting involved in the 2nd half but the damage had already been done. We were awarded a late penalty & duly made it 5-2. The players & manager came up to us at the end to more or less apologise for the awful performance. That's fair enough & this is one game only. However, the boys must get stuck in & show us what they can do - starting with Hemel.

Well.....not the ideal start to the season. As has been said above, you could tell who had been together as a squad for a long time and who hasn't. Talking to their keeper its pretty much the same core of 14 players they've had for 2-3 years and it showed. Danny talks about needing partnerships to build, and he's dead right. Their two centre halves were exactly what's needed at this level and we looked a bit lightweight against them. At the other end Mitchell Dickinson clearly wasn't fit from the start - I think the manager recognises the mistake in playing him.

What a terrific fella Danny Bloor is. No bull****, no excuses, holds his hands up and admits his mistakes. Compare and contrast with that arrogant moron we had last season.

Confident that he will turn it round - hopefully that opening 45 mins is the jolt that was needed

For more than the past few seasons we hear the word "gelling" before and at the start of any new campaign. Yes, gelling is important (as evidenced by Truro, who have retained the same players for a number of seasons) but so is skill, passion, the ability to get stuck into the opposition as well as awareness of a role on a football pitch. In the first half yesterday all of the above seemed to be missing. It was a shambles and a workmanlike side took us apart.
As far as the game was concerned the manager made a huge, huge mistake in playing Dickinson. He is not fit and in his present condition is a liability as far as the defence is concerned (although he went off injured in what appears to be a recurrence of his injury). The second half was an improvement and switching Pap to full back was a good move and the lad from Leyton O (Tanga) was IMO our man of the match with second half substitute Dom Odusanya not far behind. We seem to have suffered three more injuries which will not help the preparation for next Saturday.
I admit I was/am very deflated but the match has gone and it is no use crying over spilt milk. However, and I know it is only the first match, unless there is a vast improvement we are in for a long season, regardless of gelling or not. That was a long journey and for all of us that attended, the manager and his team owe us some payback time.

We seem to have this every year...new manager and 95% new players....the one time recently that didn't happen we know what Daisy did

It would be lovely to have a settled team going into a new season...that is what Truro have and that would have helped

I am pretty sure Danny will sort it but we reall don't want to lose our first 7 games before it does start 'gelling'

I know about a manager, let's call him Johhny, who set up a new team in a league where everyone else had several season's experience (headstart) so it was all about trying to catch up. The problem was as a new team it was hard to attract players, so Johnny had to take on lots of new inexperienced players to develop them, rather than having the luxury of easily attracting experienced players from other teams, or having loads of experienced players already on the books. With such a disadvantage Johhnny lost tons of early games, sometimes embarrassingly, 0 - 13, 0 - 8... in his early games he'd have loved just losing by 3 goals. But he realised he had to copy what the better teams were doing to his side to close the gap and be competitive and pointed out what others were doing better than us, that we needed to copy to be as good as them, so taught the players how to quickly close the experience gap, and later on in the season Johnny was proud to get three 1 - 0 wins in a row, against teams that had earlier hammered his previously inexperienced team. It's not that different to Welling, no way when we play Truro at our ground later on this season, with us having got tons of experience since we last played them, will they be four goals ahead at half time? No. Will we beat them next time now we have caught up and overtaken? Yes.

So in the short term Truro goes down to one of those comical things that can happen in football, high expectations, first match of the season, at the furthest away bloody ground, 1 - 5 down at half time, disaster, couldnt have started worse. Yet second half we score, keep a clean sheet, one can't do better than that in second half a match.

So total respect to Danny and the guys, we are playing catch up with the more settled experienced team, judge us on when we have played enough games to have caught up in experience, 2,3, 4 months time, not on yesterday when we are playing 12 debutants. It will take 6 games or so to get an idea of our best 11, any good results before then are just a bonus, then it is game on!!!

It never ceases to amaze me how some people can comment about a game they never actually attended....?!

I have spoken with a few people that were there and offered their opinions. However, if I wasn't there in person, then I have no opinion to offer. 

Jimmie wrote:

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10 of our starters made league debuts for us, another debut was made in the second half. Letting in 5 first half goals is obviously no good, but at least we didnt concede in the second half. This will be a season of two parts, first gelling, then hopefully really doing well, so the big uncertainty is just how long the gelling time will take. I just hope we dont have a slow start and fall so far behind we can't catch up. But Danny has shown what he can do with an experienced team, and use his tactical skills, his team last season fell behind 27 times, then turned it round and won 7 of these and drew once. Welling fell behind 21 times, and because of a rubbish Plan A only turned results a couple of times - won 2 and drew 2. Danny's side last season took the lead 31 times, holding on to win 22 times, drawing 5. So once he gets a settled side with us we'll be fine. And he and the squad are learning without really having had much time to prepare, so are having to learn in league games, against much more experienced teams, but we will catch them up in experience in due course. We've now got two home games in a row, and there are positives, yes, we lost, but we lost to the team that are top of the table. And we're only 3 points off the top! And only a point behind Dartfart!

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 I do look forward to reading all these ever so interesting facts and figures you post Jimmie. Please keep it up. Perhaps you could go into detail so we can really understand why we won or lost or even drew a game. Its fascinating. 

Morning I was at Truro

Regarding this thread RonF post summed it up
Wallop also

Long posts by Jimmie I stopped reading long time back apologies.

One game gone onto to Hemel Hempstead

Mr. Bloor is WUFC manager he would of learnt from Truro.

Green was my MOTM
Papa going RB combined well with tanga brought him into game.

Squad will learn

Everyone enjoy the week ahead

As I said most of last season we need to go into a season with the same manager and a core of the squad that know each other with new additions that compliment and improve the squad. I hope that happens next season.

I went to the game and thank David for organising the coach on behalf of WUSA. Best part of the day being with my friends and visiting a new ground that was very nice. The locals were a friendly bunch. It was a very long way though. Also glad I didn't drive.

Isn't pre-season about gelling the squad? Truro showed the benefits of having a team that has largely been together for 3 seasons now, as an opposition fan told me.

Playing Dickenson who was clearly not fit. BIG MISTAKE.
Taking a player off after 15 minutes shows you got your team selection wrong. BIG MISTAKE

I expected to lose before I left home, from what I've seen pre-season I don't think our team is very good this season. I think we will struggle to stay up. I hope I'm wrong. My illustration is Beckenham Town. Last season we won 7-0 this season we struggled to a 3-2 win.

MOTM for me Will Wood ( Determined, battler who shows commitment and passion. He should be our club captain IMO)

The one positive I'm taking is our best player, IMO, Lewis White, didn't play through injury.

My biggest worry is our manager seems to show no fight or passion. Didn't see him out of the dugout until the 2nd half when it was too late. Yes, Danny Bloor is a nice fella but is he a winner?

So, far. His record P7 W1 D1 L5 Like my old school reports, must try harder!

Overall Verdict on Saturday: EMBARRASSING

Alan wrote:

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As I said most of last season we need to go into a season with the same manager and a core of the squad that know each other with new additions that compliment and improve the squad. I hope that happens next season.

I went to the game and thank David for organising the coach on behalf of WUSA. Best part of the day being with my friends and visiting a new ground that was very nice. The locals were a friendly bunch. It was a very long way though. Also glad I didn't drive.

Isn't pre-season about gelling the squad? Truro showed the benefits of having a team that has largely been together for 3 seasons now, as an opposition fan told me.

Playing Dickenson who was clearly not fit. BIG MISTAKE.
Taking a player off after 15 minutes shows you got your team selection wrong. BIG MISTAKE

I expected to lose before I left home, from what I've seen pre-season I don't think our team is very good this season. I think we will struggle to stay up. I hope I'm wrong. My illustration is Beckenham Town. Last season we won 7-0 this season we struggled to a 3-2 win.

MOTM for me Will Wood ( Determined, battler who shows commitment and passion. He should be our club captain IMO)

The one positive I'm taking is our best player, IMO, Lewis White, didn't play through injury.

My biggest worry is our manager seems to show no fight or passion. Didn't see him out of the dugout until the 2nd half when it was too late. Yes, Danny Bloor is a nice fella but is he a winner?

So, far. His record P7 W1 D1 L5 Like my old school reports, must try harder!

Overall Verdict on Saturday: EMBARRASSING

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 Overall Verdict of your post: EMBARRASSING

I wasn't at the game but listened to the excellent commentary. From what I saw pre-season a back three didn't look too good and a back four did, especially when Green came into the team. I was surprised we didn't start with four at the back Saturday. Personally I only like three centre halves/wing backs when we have the ability to score more goals than the oppo (like we did years ago with Oboe, Barney, etc.). 

Danny Bloor has shown more people skills and the right sort of passion from what I've seen in interviews and on social media, and when I spoke to him in the bar.

Fair enough we can criticize a 5-1 defeat but for anyone to be panicking so early, after just one game, is unbelievable. 

Alan wrote:

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As I said most of last season we need to go into a season with the same manager and a core of the squad that know each other with new additions that compliment and improve the squad. I hope that happens next season.

I went to the game and thank David for organising the coach on behalf of WUSA. Best part of the day being with my friends and visiting a new ground that was very nice. The locals were a friendly bunch. It was a very long way though. Also glad I didn't drive.

Isn't pre-season about gelling the squad? Truro showed the benefits of having a team that has largely been together for 3 seasons now, as an opposition fan told me.

Playing Dickenson who was clearly not fit. BIG MISTAKE.
Taking a player off after 15 minutes shows you got your team selection wrong. BIG MISTAKE

I expected to lose before I left home, from what I've seen pre-season I don't think our team is very good this season. I think we will struggle to stay up. I hope I'm wrong. My illustration is Beckenham Town. Last season we won 7-0 this season we struggled to a 3-2 win.

MOTM for me Will Wood ( Determined, battler who shows commitment and passion. He should be our club captain IMO)

The one positive I'm taking is our best player, IMO, Lewis White, didn't play through injury.

My biggest worry is our manager seems to show no fight or passion. Didn't see him out of the dugout until the 2nd half when it was too late. Yes, Danny Bloor is a nice fella but is he a winner?

So, far. His record P7 W1 D1 L5 Like my old school reports, must try harder!

Overall Verdict on Saturday: EMBARRASSING

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 Blimey!