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We are 7 -1 with the bookies to win, Boreham Wood 1 - 3, which is crazy if you look at both teams recent form. I've backed us at the generous odds, with a little saver on a draw, which is 4 -1.

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Get through and we are ball number 77 for the live draw on itv1 Sunday at 2.30



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I have watched the interview with their manager. They are by no means taking this game likely. They want to get through to the 1st round proper too. We will have to be at our best going forward and defend much better than of late. We have conceded 2 goals in each of the last 5 games. That has got to stop starting Saturday. COYW

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Nice to have a game with no pressure in a way.  Dartford we had to perform and put in a shift due to it being a local derby and recent poor results there and with Gosport we had the pressure on us to win being the higher team, despite them being at home, good form and top.  At least Boreham Wood have it on them this time.  

Will be hard today but three away draws to tough sides would mean we would merit a first round tie.  



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Got a feeling we are going to win...touch wood obviously but I expected us to crash out already but here we are!

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Youngster in goal now...good luck to him

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Youngster in goal now...good luck to him


 Which keeper is off?



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Can see why Borehamwood wanted to charge external radio coverage with the 16 home fans in attendance.

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Ref. WTF. Buff said

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Ah **** - not sure what is meant above so will wait for tge match reports as nd comments from people there

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Great game, both teams are quite low in the tables, so the FA Cup is a welcome chance to shine, and both sides really raised their game. The Boreham Wood owner had not too subtly put pressure on their manager by saying he keeps losing by playing the same players in the same formation, and the manager was slagging off his own team saying they just played one way - a long ball to the striker. Watching their recent highlights it wasnt a surprise they are having a poor season as they were very slow to close down, so gave the opposition too much time on the ball. Unfortunately for Welling they got that right today.

But they only got their winning goal five minutes from the end of normal time, and we had lots of chances, hit the post and outplayed them in the second half, so at least deserved a draw, which was great bearing in mind they play a division above us. I was really proud of our guys, and our fans.

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Great game, both teams are quite low in the tables, so the FA Cup is a welcome chance to shine, and both sides really raised their game. The Boreham Wood owner had not too subtly put pressure on their manager by saying he keeps losing by playing the same players in the same formation, and the manager was slagging off his own team saying they just played one way - a long ball to the striker. Watching their recent highlights it wasnt a surprise they are having a poor season as they were very slow to close down, so gave the opposition too much time on the ball. Unfortunately for Welling they got that right today.

But they only got their winning goal five minutes from the end of normal time, and we had lots of chances, hit the post and outplayed them in the second half, so at least deserved a draw, which was great bearing in mind they play a division above us. I was really proud of our guys, and our fans.


 Both sides really raised their games?  If that's a national league team raising their game then we'd have nothing to fear from promotion 



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Truly awful ref and I hope the video highlights, highlight how bad he actually was.  How he can give a yellow for a straight red is bizarre.  We had several players go down bleeding from dangerous play yet the ref did nothing.  Lino was the same but I guess the ref told him to leave any decisions to him. Refs are like that, they like to play the important card and not allow assistant referees to assist.

We played well at times and deserved more but what's done is done now. 

I just hope all the hard work pays off with some league wins now. 



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I had seen their previous highlights, and was struck by how they didn't close down opponents or fight to win games. I think that is because they are used to winning in recent seasons, so aren't used to scrapping for points. But against us they got that basic right, not giving us lots of time on the ball, so that is what I meant about them raising their game. They have reached the Third round for the last 3 seasons, so clearly were determined to try to do that again this season, especially as their league position suggests promotion is not likely.

When we played National League Woking in a preseason game I was impressed how we matched them all over the pitch, and said that to one of our important club figures who said he was disappointed by our individual errors (which if memory serves were mostly Taofiq). Against National League Boreham Wood we also matched them all over the pitch, but have improved, so we have stopped making individual errors that lead to goals as the players that made them have moved on, and it is pleasing they didn't score any goals from open play, just from a free kick, and we will never know if our regular keeper would have saved that free kick if he had still been on the pitch. Losing Lewis to injury was a real shame, I dont have stats but feel we do much better when he is on the pitch.

Looking back, trying to work out what we could have done better to get a better result, a reason we started the season so poorly results wise was we didn't get enough guys into the box, so it was easy for opposition to mark our one or two players in attacking positions. Since then we have improved and now get lots more players forward and into the opposition box. But against Boreham Wood it felt to me we didn't get enough guys in the box in this particular match, so had more long range shots, rather than playing our new normal game of 3 or 4 in the box. But this team has still played less than 20 games together, and we are constantly improving, so no doubt lessons will be learned.

But looking forward to November, as in our 6 games that month we will be playing 5 of the 6 bottom teams in the table, so finally some easier games.



-- Edited by Jimmie on Sunday 15th of October 2023 12:28:49 PM

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We were very unlucky yesterday not to get at least a replay. The ref and lino were a total disgrace I cannot emphasise that enough.

Good away following and atmosphere. Up the Wings.

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Ah **** - not sure what is meant above so will wait for tge match reports as nd comments from people there


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Sure I didn't have that many beers yesterday

 

Anyway I'll watch the highlights if they show up - standard bad refs as always - bring in VAR...oh wait that's just as bad 

 

We had ****ty draws in the cup again and a shame we didn't make it to the 1st round 



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Really disappointing not to take them back to PVR for a replay, the first 15-20 mins it was mostly all them ,but we started to gain composure and create some chances. We was so unlucky with the 2 injuries and i was more than happy to go in level at the break. Second half and we more than matched them and was unlucky to hit the post and they seemed to start panicking at the back. Mark Doig said to me at the end "they are stretching us a bit now" and literally 30 seconds later they get the free kick to get the winner. I thought the Referee and the linesman our side was a joke, there was so much going on off the ball towards our players and yet nothing was given, I certainly hope a Referee's assessor was there to report how biased and incompetent they were. I thought the idea to segregate our fans was well over the top and the lack of facilities available to our fans was shocking, certainly not a place I'll be ever be rushing back to. Our support was magnificent, constantly backing the team throughout the entire game and at the final whistle, a credit not only to Welling but to Non-League football. So out the FA Cup we go but everyone associated with Welling United can hold thier heads high !!!
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I must echo what everyone else has said. Welling grew into the game and were unlucky to have 2 players badly injured. They competed well and deserved a draw. I spoke to Cameron Green after the match and he was dejected. I said to him he should be proud of himself and the team. We played away to a team a division above us and gave them a match. Welling only lost to a very well taken free kick 1-0. The referee and linesman were a disgrace and gave some very poor decisions. Welling United have played some very good football this season and aren't quite getting the rub of the green. Hopefully that will change soon.

Verdict: Extremely proud of Welling United Football Club

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Get through and we are ball number 77 for the live draw on itv1 Sunday at 2.30


 77 Borehamwood drew Eastleigh away. Hopefully the same set of officials get drawn for that game too. 



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Sounds like the usual **** then

Might as well put on the Tristram theme - at least you can enjoy some nostalgia

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Really disappointing not to take them back to PVR for a replay, the first 15-20 mins it was mostly all them ,but we started to gain composure and create some chances. We was so unlucky with the 2 injuries and i was more than happy to go in level at the break. Second half and we more than matched them and was unlucky to hit the post and they seemed to start panicking at the back. Mark Doig said to me at the end "they are stretching us a bit now" and literally 30 seconds later they get the free kick to get the winner. I thought the Referee and the linesman our side was a joke, there was so much going on off the ball towards our players and yet nothing was given, I certainly hope a Referee's assessor was there to report how biased and incompetent they were. I thought the idea to segregate our fans was well over the top and the lack of facilities available to our fans was shocking, certainly not a place I'll be ever be rushing back to. Our support was magnificent, constantly backing the team throughout the entire game and at the final whistle, a credit not only to Welling but to Non-League football. So out the FA Cup we go but everyone associated with Welling United can hold thier heads high !!!
On to Torquay next week


 Agree with all of this. What a shambles Boreham Wood - you would have thought years of Arsenal's money for their academy and ladies teams might have extended to (at the very least) a 'pop up' bar for away fans, rather than a solitary poxy tea shed! 

I thought we showed them too much respect in the first half as they just looked a big, physical team with no real creativity. As soon as we stepped it up after the break, we exposed them and deserved a draw at the least. I despair at the state of officiating in this country from the top down - once we had the best refs on the planet; now the standard is pitiful. We might as well actually have a machine that beeps if the ball goes into the touch because that's the only job a linesman does these days. Endless foul throws, stealing yards and blatant fouls right under their noses and they simply stand there. The ref was abysmal - a typical, 'easy street' ref who chose to ignore the rough stuff dished out by the bigger team and try and get through another 90 minutes without a meaningful decision. I see it week in, week out and its ruining good matches. 

 

The team did us proud. The young fella in goal should hold his high having to come into a game like that. Good luck to Eastleigh !



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Thought the referee started of brightly enough, showing cards where required.
As the game went on, never continued with his early level of imposing of the rules and thought he was after an easy ride.
Agree with the amount of foul throws not given.
So far this season I have found the females have given a better account of themselves, than the males, when it comes to refereeing.


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The highlights from both clubs show different perspectives, our highlights edited out Antony's silly tackle to concede the free kick they scored from, whereas that is in Boreham Woods highlights, and ours show the totally blatant assault in front of the weak ref that should have been a red card that they omitted from their highlights. If one of us did that to someone on the street we would be arrested for assault, yet to him it was just a minor yellow card.

As the dust settles on the match our quality shows all the clearer. When we played a division down Gosport they faded as games went on, as they train less than us, so our better fitness showed. I wondered if we would fade in the same way against higher opposition, as those Boreham Wood bastards are full time, and we only train three times a week, yet we were miles better and fitter in the second half, and that is something to be so proud of, and hasnt been mentioned. I can't stand them, they only let visiting fans in an hour and a quarter before kick off, which is unfriendly and dumb, as they could make money from early arrivals buying food and drink except they are so inhospitable they dont have a bar available to visiting fans, and they banned Radio Wings, so I hope they get relegated so we can finish our business with them next season.

I would love to know what our half time team talk said, as we were transformed in the second half. Some who didnt watch the match say here it is the same old story, another bad luck story against a higher team, but it wasn't, it was a totally even match where you couldn't tell who the higher league team was, and we were focused on playing football, they only cared about getting through, so were determined to get through any way possible, including thuggery. I just wish we had a replay so more Welling fans could have seen what a special team we are.

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The highlights from both clubs show different perspectives, our highlights edited out Antony's silly tackle to concede the free kick they scored from, whereas that is in Boreham Woods highlights, and ours show the totally blatant assault in front of the weak ref that should have been a red card that they omitted from their highlights. If one of us did that to someone on the street we would be arrested for assault, yet to him it was just a minor yellow card.

As the dust settles on the match our quality shows all the clearer. When we played a division down Gosport they faded as games went on, as they train less than us, so our better fitness showed. I wondered if we would fade in the same way against higher opposition, as those Boreham Wood bastards are full time, and we only train three times a week, yet we were miles better and fitter in the second half, and that is something to be so proud of, and hasnt been mentioned. I can't stand them, they only let visiting fans in an hour and a quarter before kick off, which is unfriendly and dumb, as they could make money from early arrivals buying food and drink except they are so inhospitable they dont have a bar available to visiting fans, and they banned Radio Wings, so I hope they get relegated so we can finish our business with them next season.

I would love to know what our half time team talk said, as we were transformed in the second half. Some who didnt watch the match say here it is the same old story, another bad luck story against a higher team, but it wasn't, it was a totally even match where you couldn't tell who the higher league team was, and we were focused on playing football, they only cared about getting through, so were determined to get through any way possible, including thuggery. I just wish we had a replay so more Welling fans could have seen what a special team we are.


 'Antony's silly tackle' should read 'Antony's tired tackle'. Amadou Kassarate was almost out on his feet having made his first start for months but, because of the two first half injuries, Danny Bloor couldn't freshen the team up. Having TJ Bramble and James Vaughan absent was also a handicap.

'we only train three times a week' should read 'we only train twice a week' to the best of my knowledge.

'I hope they get relegated so we can finish our business with them next season.' Do you really want to go back there next year?



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The highlights from both clubs show different perspectives, our highlights edited out Antony's silly tackle to concede the free kick they scored from, whereas that is in Boreham Woods highlights, and ours show the totally blatant assault in front of the weak ref that should have been a red card that they omitted from their highlights. If one of us did that to someone on the street we would be arrested for assault, yet to him it was just a minor yellow card.

As the dust settles on the match our quality shows all the clearer. When we played a division down Gosport they faded as games went on, as they train less than us, so our better fitness showed. I wondered if we would fade in the same way against higher opposition, as those Boreham Wood bastards are full time, and we only train three times a week, yet we were miles better and fitter in the second half, and that is something to be so proud of, and hasnt been mentioned. I can't stand them, they only let visiting fans in an hour and a quarter before kick off, which is unfriendly and dumb, as they could make money from early arrivals buying food and drink except they are so inhospitable they dont have a bar available to visiting fans, and they banned Radio Wings, so I hope they get relegated so we can finish our business with them next season.

I would love to know what our half time team talk said, as we were transformed in the second half. Some who didnt watch the match say here it is the same old story, another bad luck story against a higher team, but it wasn't, it was a totally even match where you couldn't tell who the higher league team was, and we were focused on playing football, they only cared about getting through, so were determined to get through any way possible, including thuggery. I just wish we had a replay so more Welling fans could have seen what a special team we are.


 'Antony's silly tackle' should read 'Antony's tired tackle'. Amadou Kassarate was almost out on his feet having made his first start for months but, because of the two first half injuries, Danny Bloor couldn't freshen the team up. Having TJ Bramble and James Vaughan absent was also a handicap.

'we only train three times a week' should read 'we only train twice a week' to the best of my knowledge.

'I hope they get relegated so we can finish our business with them next season.' Do you really want to go back there next year?


 

The irony. Should actually read 'we train only twice a week' plus the 'bastards' didn't get a tug!



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Wow, I didn't realise we are now training twice a week, that makes our performance against full time Boreham Wood all the more impressive. Last season we trained Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, so I guess we are now training Tuesdays and Thursdays?

Sorry, Boreham Wood really annoyed me, I like to get to matches early, to watch the warm ups, maybe have a quick word with players or management team, but their arbitrary decision to only let visiting fans in 75 minutes before kick off affected that. Then there is the hypocrisy of their site saying unfortunately visiting fans are not allowed in their social area, when they are the ones that make that rule. But they direct one to pubs in the high street. Then there was the totally unnecessary segregation of fans, when their fans are so passive and quiet their only danger is they make wake each other up with their snoring during their matches, as they only were awake at the final whistle. They have made the third round of the FA in the last three seasons, so easily earned £100K each season, plus a fifth round appearance, so another £200K for that, so with at least £500K in the past few years they cant afford a bar for visiting fans, or even a cover over the away end. Their manager post match interview was that the only thing that mattered was getting through, so he ignored the fact he knew we are a quick team, so he had clearly told his team to kick us off the pitch to slow us down, headbutts, body checks, all ok in his and the refs book.

I remember Antony gave away an equally poor free kick in a similar position that the opposition scored from when he was playing in defence, so I dont put that tackle down to fatigue, just down to him not thinking that was a bad place to concede a free kick.

But we are only a quarter of the way into the league season, so tons of time left to get the improved results our performances deserve. We are 10 points off a play off spot, with 35 games to go. I wouldn't write us off yet, yes, the parentless Boreham Wood result was disappointing, but if we could get 4 wins in November's easier fixtures against 5 of the bottom 6 teams then it is game on.

 

Just adding onto Boring Wood's list of shame, Welling are great at encouraging the next generation of Welling fans by giving free admission to Under 11s. Mean Boring Wood offer no free admission to young fans, just a small ticket discount, and actually insist that they must be accompanied by an adult. I get that their manager has had bad results and is under pressure for his job, but his team treating it like a WWF event, rather than a football match, was really annoying to watch, especially that they won playing like that!



-- Edited by Jimmie on Thursday 19th of October 2023 11:17:42 AM

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