Tumbleweed..

I think they've had to go back to the drawing board and put fit for purpose football facilities in people's back garden.

And adding a fair percentage on build costs due to accessibility for both construction and rental purposes.
Dont see that as viable due to having construction taking place 6ft away.
The only way I see housing there, is if Welling find somewhere else to play

Apart from conjecture the silence on this subject is deafening. Those in the know do not seem to communicate even the most basic of details. We were told some basic time frames in the summer and it was vaguely touched upon during meet the manager, since then nothing. I am sure those in the know read this forum, therefore, can we please have an official update, good or bad, any informative information will do.

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Look like those original plans to bring all our academy under one roof are dead in the water as they have just brought there own ground www.wellingunitedacademy.co.uk/news/new-home-for-welling-united-fc-academy
Sorry can't get the link up

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 Obviously with 40 plus teams in the Academy not everything could be under one roof unless London Borough of Bexley donated a big chunk of Danson Park.

This was mentioned at the meet the manager meeting when it was said the Academy had a site in New Eltham.

As far as Im aware we are awaiting to hear if planning permission is approved not sure why people above are being negative when thats not in clubs control, although I agree an update would be useful

As for comments above, if approved no we wouldnt be playing at PVR during construction phase

Anyone interested in the Academy development they have a public consultation day tomorrow at roots4life just past the co-op ground from 10 till 4. Found this on facebook and local Nextdoor App. Just hope the Royal Borough gives a quick decision once the plans go in. With this, as I live in Greenwich,  I can comment favourably.

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Squarevanmanthesecond wrote:

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Anyone interested in the Academy development they have a public consultation day tomorrow at roots4life just past the co-op ground from 10 till 4. Found this on facebook and local Nextdoor App. Just hope the Royal Borough gives a quick decision once the plans go in. With this, as I live in Greenwich,  I can comment favourably.

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 Whats for sure is RBG will make a quicker decision than Bexley Council ever will. 

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 Yea, if there's something in it for them

Westbrookewing wrote:

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Luke wrote:

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As far as Im aware we are awaiting to hear if planning permission is approved not sure why people above are being negative when thats not in clubs control, although I agree an update would be useful

As for comments above, if approved no we wouldnt be playing at PVR during construction phase

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 Does anyone know whether the application has been submitted and if so do they have a link. I have looked on the Bexley Planning Portal and cant see any recent application.

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 I believe you speak for most of us. However, trying to get information on this subject is like getting blood out of a stone. 

Yesterday I visited the site in Footscray Road where there was information on the new Academy development. Taylor Couldry, who manages the Girls football for the club, gave me a fantastic overview of the plans and timeframes and I have to say this is very impressive. From 3G main pitch with main stand to various other grass pitches for different age groups, this could be huge for the club and also make Welling United have the best training facilities in the South East. The potential revenue to be earned from this development in terms of hiring the pitches out is huge and ultimately could help fund the first team to sign better players.

Also the main pitch looks good enough for the first team to play there during the development of PVR.

Looking forward to see how this develops over the next 12 months or so.

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Or could we be saying goodbye to PVR? See below, can see theres a stadium in the plans

www.facebook.com/GB10Sports

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 I asked about the capacity when I visited but nothing concrete till planning permission goes in. However it would need to hold at least 4000 and RB Greenwich would need a massive consultation area for that. Although personally Footscray Road is easier to travel to than Park View Road.

Happy Christmas everyone

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Wellingmarshmellow wrote:

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Or could we be saying goodbye to PVR? See below, can see theres a stadium in the plans

www.facebook.com/GB10Sports

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  However it would need to hold at least 4000 

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 Not for step 3.

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Apart from conjecture the silence on this subject is deafening. Those in the know do not seem to communicate even the most basic of details. We were told some basic time frames in the summer and it was vaguely touched upon during meet the manager, since then nothing. I am sure those in the know read this forum, therefore, can we please have an official update, good or bad, any informative information will do.

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 I do not wish to bore anyone over this subject, but still absolutely nothing. No wonder the rumour mill is working overtime. Whilst I believe that all the indications are for an end of season relegation we know nothing about the future of the ground, other than some totally out of date timescales that were given in mid summer. Surely such matters are not clouded in business confidentiality and a New Year's message is needed to bring things into the open. Surely such matters cannot be that difficult, can they? 

I live in Eltham, which may influence my suggestion that we ground share with Cray Valley Paper Mills. Their capacity is 1500, so below League South 4000 minimum, so I get it isnt an option for National League South, but if the worst happens and we were relegated, it sounds from Chris's comment as though CVPM could then be a viable option.

Other options that strike me are ground sharing with Cray Wanderers once that stadium is finished, or taking their rental space at Bromley once Cray Wanderers move to their own ground and stop playing at Bromley.

The benefit of these suggestions is they are fairly close to Welling with direct transport. The last I'd heard we were supposed to being playing at Tonbridge for two years, which for me at least would be a bus to Orpington and train to Tonbridge, so would take up most of the day going to and from a home match, which isnt ideal if there are closer alternatives we could have played at, and makes midweek matches impractical, unless watching them on the stream, and the cost of travel in effect doubles the cost of watching each match. I just wonder how many fans will commit to longer time and higher costs for match days at Tonbridge, if that is still the intention.

It makes community engagement hard if we end up playing too far away for local casual new fans to attend. We would only need a ground as big as Tonbridge if we are still in our current division. So in a way best to wait until we know what division we will be in before making any commitment to a ground share somewhere else.

The big problem is the club hardly has any revenue during the 2 years away, so I wonder if the development cant be completed in 12 months, I dont have a construction background, but two years for the development just sounds very long.

Hopefully our case would be very different to E&B, unlike them we would be considerate tenants, whose presence would financially benefit whoever let's us temporarily use their ground.

I use the Tonbridge line quite often at weekends, and weekend engineering works and bus replacement services make a long journey even longer. Looking at the fixtures we have already played 5 midweek home games, so not being able to go to those if we play there makes it not sensible getting a season ticket, hence the suggestion of looking for somewhere closer.

The issue of where we play during the development hasn't been put ot the fans, maybe there could be scope for a second round of consultation with the fans, looking at the different options and getting feedback on them. I get how league rules specify a minimum ground size, and that limits our options to just a few grounds we could approach, so it is possible Tonbridge is the only realistic option, but impossible to know what is happening with no updates for months, as presumably nothing has been confirmed by the council yet. 10 lines... not bad!

If the development does not get approved , we wont be moving

Ground redevelopment radio:

'Walls come tumbling down' - The Bexley Council

The Poet wrote:

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Ground redevelopment radio:

'Walls come tumbling down' - The Bexley Council

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 Get your redevelopment songs in now for tomorrow's half time music

Dreamer by Supertramp sums up the chances of progress for me