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Paul whitehead had the right ideas and the passion as he wore both hats as a businessman but also a football fan. Got gates up etc - just been wasted. I don't want to be overly critical but what has new CEO put in place that the other guy wasn't already doing. Free tickets are alright but if you can't cope or give an experience that offer loses its punch

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 Regarding the new CEO, fully agree.

It is a tough job but the reality is, although she has inherited this $hit, it is her role to tidy it up.

As of yet, I have seen F All that instills any form of confidence In her ability to do so.

Riverstown wrote:

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Wallop wrote:

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Jimmy wrote:

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Paul whitehead had the right ideas and the passion as he wore both hats as a businessman but also a football fan. Got gates up etc - just been wasted. I don't want to be overly critical but what has new CEO put in place that the other guy wasn't already doing. Free tickets are alright but if you can't cope or give an experience that offer loses its punch

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 Regarding the new CEO, fully agree.

It is a tough job but the reality is, although she has inherited this $hit, it is her role to tidy it up.

As of yet, I have seen F All that instills any form of confidence In her ability to do so.

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 Yeh thats right lets slag her off and drive her away. i dare say her budget for getting stuff done is pennies rather than pounds. All she has is her enthusiasm and basically fk all else. Give a chance FFS. 

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 Well said

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Wallop wrote:

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How long exactly? Just curious thats all.
You telling me the off field debacle recently is fully excusable?
There was good money to be earned, yet we done nothing.
So sorry, but as a CEO, I expect better.
You telling me we couldnt have struck a deal with E&B?

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 The CEO is very good, has lots of experience, and given time and backing, I'm sure will be an asset to the club

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How long exactly? Just curious thats all.
You telling me the off field debacle recently is fully excusable?
There was good money to be earned, yet we done nothing.
So sorry, but as a CEO, I expect better.
You telling me we couldnt have struck a deal with E&B?

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 Tuesday was no different from the last 20 years. If you want to know why it wasnt a brilliant perfect day why dont you ask Sian. Im pretty sure she will answer your question.  I dare you!  Let us all know what her answer was. I reckon it might be something along the lines of   You cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear The women has been doing this laughable job of CEO for about 4 months. What the fk are you expecting? Get real!!!

Sian was appointed 2 months ago and has been working tirelessly since. I know club are trying to get a licence for marquee and outside bars. The previous opening of these was done on a casual licence (or whatever its called) and we are only allowed so many of these per year. From what I hear E&B dont want to open up for our games, its bad enough trying to get them to turn the lavatory lights on. The ground opened at 11 on Boxing Day to give fans a chance to get in grab a beer, a burger and meet their mates. However there seems to be a reluctance among some football fans to get to grounds early and they turn up at 2.58 and are shocked to find a queue at the turnstiles. I do agree though it would have been nice to have had another catering outlet on the cricket ground side. 

Riverstown wrote:

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Wallop wrote:

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How long exactly? Just curious thats all.
You telling me the off field debacle recently is fully excusable?
There was good money to be earned, yet we done nothing.
So sorry, but as a CEO, I expect better.
You telling me we couldnt have struck a deal with E&B?

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 Tuesday was no different from the last 20 years. If you want to know why it wasnt a brilliant perfect day why dont you ask Sian. Im pretty sure she will answer your question.  I dare you!  Let us all know what her answer was. I reckon it might be something along the lines of   You cant make a silk purse out of a Sows ear The women has been doing this laughable job of CEO for about 4 months. What the fk are you expecting? Get real!!!

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 So we just carry on as we are?

If gates go up then surely common sense says how do i keep that customer or turn it into revenue.  There isnt anything at moment.  The solution i dont know but im not qualified to be a ceo.

Not expecting much tbh perhaps communication such as the licensing issue for marque would help manage expectation. 

The major factor is we've been here before the guy before was meant to be a great GM.

I sincerely wish her every success with the role.  Its certainly a hard gig.

I always remember an image from a story I once read, of a mute person seeing a fire and wanting to alert everyone to the danger, but being helpless to stop anything as they literally had no voice.

Being a football fan can feel a bit like that, as one sees the problems, but have no direct connection with the coaching staff or players to make ones well intentioned suggestions to fix risks and issues, or look at danger. But non league has the advantage that it is much easier to talk directly to the important people at a club than happens in higher levels.

I am a great believer in the line of thinking "if you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem" so when I see things I think are wrong I try to point them out and hopefully the messages filters through to the important people. There has been a misunderstanding here that I am patronising, far from it, I say my point of view, but I dont think anyone who sees things differently is wrong or stupid, and I know everyone has a right to their own opinion. Against Dartford for example I had a great post match chat with a fan who totally disagreed with me about playing two up front, he said no teams in the Premier play two up front, and that we dont have the midfield to play two up front. I dont agree with those points (lots of premier teams play 2 up front, some even play 3! And if the midfield are coached to make forward passes to the front 2 then we would have a midfield suited to a front 2). But a great talk, challenging each others thinking.

Life is all about making mistakes and learning from them, and not getting too upset when things go wrong, but laugh at it all and move forward positively. That issue about how to try to help with suggestions is one I have been trying to work out. I had a couple of contact details of a couple of the first team officials, so I dropped them a note with some suggestions on how we can improve the team shooting and formation changes, the sort of things I say here. Then another point struck me, so I sent another note. Then another. Etc! Then I got a polite note asking not to contact them by correspondence. I was taken aback by that, so read through my e mails to work out what had caused offence, as my social skills arent great, so I am always accidentally causing offence until it is pointed out to me. Then I realised I'd sent 7 messages in 9 days, so that volume would have annoyed even me if I had been on the receiving end. At the end of the day I was trying too hard to be helpful, and I have explained all this to one of the fortunate recipients of my advice, and it is cool, all sorted, no problems on either side, and the funny sides of it seen.

So that is all a long way to saying, Wallop, if you have doubts about the CEO, have a word directly with them. The funny thing is after posting about this issue here I realised after I have no idea what a CEO does, so cant tell if a good or bad job is being done. So have a direct word, ask what the job involves, ask what community events are being set up, make suggestions directly, as it is more effective to talk directly than via a forum which wont be able to answer your precise concerns. Another fan told me on Saturday that they thought what you wrote was disgusting, and I know what you said was well intentioned, but as an observer it isnt great. In the same way I realised my well intentioned near daily communications werent the best way to get my thoughts across, if you re read your CEO posts you may see things differently, as there will be so many priorities for the CEO to sort out on arrival, so community may not be the mot important thing just now. Now, time for me to go off and write 7 more communications to the club officials! Just kidding... I have got several private messages from fans advising me when they think I have been out of line, and I really have appreciated that, as Welling fans great strength is how honest and direct we are, and I like that so much as it is so good to know where one stands.

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I am losing the will to read the forum. Please Jimmie reduce length  of your messages for everybody's sake.

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 I think we all are 

Why on earth are you emailing the coaching staff with hints as to what they should be doing? Have you ever coached at Conference South level or obtained coaching qualifications for that level? If not then what do you think you have to offer?

You still continue to ramble, I could have condensed your last post into a couple of short paragraphs. Any chance you could do the same?

Polo, I guess you chat to the coaching staff and give them your opinion about things, as do lots of fans, so me doing the same, only by a different form of communication, is not really that different to you and others.

I am not sure if you realise how blinkered football people can risk up ending. I remember saying to Warren the fans hated his long ball football, and that I agreed with the fans, and he was really surprised, and said he didnt play long ball football. He so clearly did, but couldnt see that as he surrounded himself with yes men, so didnt have any much needed alternative fresh thinking if a plan B was needed when things didnt work out. That is why I talk about football, to broaden my thinking. It's why I am just saying what I think here, not telling people what they should think.

That is why I was so excited about the Dartford rematch, as there was so much new thinking going on, not just repeating what hadnt worked before, it was like a template of how we should play for the rest of the season. I missed out in my match comments yesterday about how effectively the pragmatic long ball worked for us, that was another big reason why we improved the previous meeting result. Not pretty, but effective. As someone said more than once, "if we keep playing like that we will win more than we lose"! And that is precisely what we need to do to be safe from the R word.

Riverstown, the silly thing is you are right, that is the thing with me, sometimes I miss the usual social cues, so it takes me longer to pick things up like that overload, as what I said was spot on, but the volume was totally wrong, whereas most people would get that from the start. Still, the big point is we all support Welling and want it to do as well as possible, and show that in different ways, so Polo, me, Riverstown, and yes, Wallop too, all want things to work out for Welling, just maybe the slight divergence on how to best express that support!!!

Onto the nailbiting league, which will probably go down to the final game for us, Weymouth and Weston drew today, so both dropped points which is good for us, Slough and Eastbourne lost, which is good news, and the only bad outcome was Havant winning again. So our point against Dartford meant we haven't lost much ground on teams above us and at this stage there is no knowing how important that point could end up being for us. Happy new year folks!

I wonder if Jamison can share Dowse's e mail address with me, as I want to send him an e mail to say how well playing George Alexander as a lone striker worked, and to stick with that.

Then if anyone can pass me Steve King's e mail, so if he gets the Eastbourne job I can send him a recommendation to solve Eastbourne's defensive issues by signing Taylor Curran.

Jimmie wrote:

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I wonder if Jamison can share Dowse's e mail address with me, as I want to send him an e mail to say how well playing George Alexander as a lone striker worked, and to stick with that.

Then if anyone can pass me Steve King's e mail, so if he gets the Eastbourne job I can send him a recommendation to solve Eastbourne's defensive issues by signing Taylor Curran.

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 For a small fee you can have both contact numbers and as a special 3 for 2 I'll give you Goldbergs to tell him what a excellent job he done in his tenure at welling.

I've never felt the need to comment on the forum but I've always read it just to see whats going on around the club. Every time I come on the forum im met with essays from a certain person detailing his superior football knowledge and rambling on about something that has no relevance. Mr Johnny Hartley, please keep the posts to the same size everyone else does, me and probably many others are finding the forum unenjoyable to read because of your posts

Skin of a rhinoceros!