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Polo wrote:

Picture the scene....

We win, manager being thanked for a superb battling win.

Owners then wait until he's on his way home and call him to tell him the news. Why not tell him to his face and do the decent thing?

Absolutely disgraceful. I'm embarrassed to be associated with this club sometimes.


 Scumbags.



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U expect official thing, is there anyone working there anymore to make it officia!



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You know what, I'm not a fan of the guy at e&b, but I'd 100% percent back him against signing the agreement that our clown owners/benefactors thought that they could bully him into. Without that paper signed, nothing they want done will happen, sadly though, where that would leave our club I'm not sure.

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Who actually runs the club Curran, prosser or dolke?

This is crazy especially as they wouldn't sack feeney.



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There have been some inaccurate things said recently here that fans got upset about that turned out to be wrong, is this absolutely definitely the case, nothing has been said on twitter or the club site.


 Unfortunately it's true. 

 



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This is ludicrous. This had been a good day.



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Well you can never be suprised about the things in life. Attended Hampton today to see a battling performance that gives me hope about the immediate future. Then get home to see Danny Bloor giving an interview afterwards saying how pleased he was and then hearing he has been sacked and it seems on the telephone on his way home. What an exceedingly poor way to conduct business. This has taken the shine off everything, I take it that Gary Fiore will be taking over, if so it smacks of "et tu brute". In my opinion it is the wrong decision, regardless of what some people on this forum feels about Danny's abilities I don't think we will get any better at this time in the season. The Club appears to be going from bad to worse.



-- Edited by RonF on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:28:45 PM

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Well you can never be suprised about the things in life. Attended Hampton today to see a battling performance that gives me hope about the immediate future. Then get home to see Danny Bloor giving an interview afterwards saying how pleased he was and then hearing he has been sacked and it seems on the telephone on his way home. What an exceedingly poor way to conduct business. This has taken the shine off everything, I take it that Gary Fiore will be taking over, if so it smacks of "et tu brute". In my opinion it is the wrong decision, regardless of what some people on this forum feels about Danny's abilities I don't think we will get any better at this time in the season. The Club appears to be going from bad to worse.



-- Edited by RonF on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:28:45 PM


 Gary Fiore is not taking over



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Yep. Buzzing after today to get a phone call while on the way to the station which deflates everyone.

If certain people want to hold the club to ransom over decisions then I'm afraid there needs to be a response. Don't spend money in the ground.

For anyone who is likely to show there distain on Tuesday, it's not the players fault, it's not the new managers fault, they need all the support on Tuesday the same today, which was superb.


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RonF wrote:

Well you can never be suprised about the things in life. Attended Hampton today to see a battling performance that gives me hope about the immediate future. Then get home to see Danny Bloor giving an interview afterwards saying how pleased he was and then hearing he has been sacked and it seems on the telephone on his way home. What an exceedingly poor way to conduct business. This has taken the shine off everything, I take it that Gary Fiore will be taking over, if so it smacks of "et tu brute". In my opinion it is the wrong decision, regardless of what some people on this forum feels about Danny's abilities I don't think we will get any better at this time in the season. The Club appears to be going from bad to worse.



-- Edited by RonF on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:28:45 PM


 Incorrect about Garry Fiore, I think he's more annoyed than anyone about today's decision.



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Yep. Buzzing after today to get a phone call while on the way to the station which deflates everyone.

If certain people want to hold the club to ransom over decisions then I'm afraid there needs to be a response. Don't spend money in the ground.

For anyone who is likely to show there distain on Tuesday, it's not the players fault, it's not the new managers fault, they need all the support on Tuesday the same today, which was superb.


 Totally agree with this, hit them where it hurts. Ill be next door and I hope more people follow suit.

 

 



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Well you can never be suprised about the things in life. Attended Hampton today to see a battling performance that gives me hope about the immediate future. Then get home to see Danny Bloor giving an interview afterwards saying how pleased he was and then hearing he has been sacked and it seems on the telephone on his way home. What an exceedingly poor way to conduct business. This has taken the shine off everything, I take it that Gary Fiore will be taking over, if so it smacks of "et tu brute". In my opinion it is the wrong decision, regardless of what some people on this forum feels about Danny's abilities I don't think we will get any better at this time in the season. The Club appears to be going from bad to worse.



-- Edited by RonF on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:28:45 PM


 Gary Fiore is not taking over


 Yep Gary Fiore resigned as a director of the CIC on 1st January

 



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He dealt with the challenge of having no fixed training venue for the two evening sessions a week.

He handled the club cost cutting switching mid season to morning sessions, by the look of it to play for free in a park, that presumably not all the squad would have been able to attend as some would already have other work commitments during the day.

Squeezing the best out of the budget by successfully playing youth players, or developing cheaper players signed from lower divisions against teams filled by seasoned NLS players.

He kept publicly positivity high during the months in the bottom 4 while getting the under resourced team to gel, while the owners and board were publicly invisible.

A sound track record, popular with players and fans, bring replaced by people with a poor track record of wrong appointments.

Still in 2 cup competitions.



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Well you can never be suprised about the things in life. Attended Hampton today to see a battling performance that gives me hope about the immediate future. Then get home to see Danny Bloor giving an interview afterwards saying how pleased he was and then hearing he has been sacked and it seems on the telephone on his way home. What an exceedingly poor way to conduct business. This has taken the shine off everything, I take it that Gary Fiore will be taking over, if so it smacks of "et tu brute". In my opinion it is the wrong decision, regardless of what some people on this forum feels about Danny's abilities I don't think we will get any better at this time in the season. The Club appears to be going from bad to worse.



-- Edited by RonF on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:28:45 PM


 Gary Fiore is not taking over


 Yep Gary Fiore resigned as a director of the CIC on 1st January

 



-- Edited by Westbrookewing on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:40:55 PM


 Says it all really, again not someone who is everyone's cup of tea. But he gets things done, could probably see the **** that is to come and didn't want his name associated with it when it does.



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Well you can never be suprised about the things in life. Attended Hampton today to see a battling performance that gives me hope about the immediate future. Then get home to see Danny Bloor giving an interview afterwards saying how pleased he was and then hearing he has been sacked and it seems on the telephone on his way home. What an exceedingly poor way to conduct business. This has taken the shine off everything, I take it that Gary Fiore will be taking over, if so it smacks of "et tu brute". In my opinion it is the wrong decision, regardless of what some people on this forum feels about Danny's abilities I don't think we will get any better at this time in the season. The Club appears to be going from bad to worse.



-- Edited by RonF on Saturday 27th of January 2024 09:28:45 PM


 Incorrect about Garry Fiore, I think he's more annoyed than anyone about today's decision.


 Apologies to Mr Fiore and from what you intimate they appear to already have somebody in place to take over. I just feel the whole episode is shocking and leaves a nasty taste in the mouth. I wouldn't be suprised if the CEO walks too. 



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The club is being run by clowns without the best intentions of the football club at heart. Ive told you all over and over and over again and now finally maybe you see the fog lifting????

They are destroying our club, absolute slags the lot of them.

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We played with energy & passion today. It was a real battling performance. Thoroughly deserved the victory against a useful Hemel Hempstead side. We had fantastic support, as usual, and we hardly stopped singing.

This victory meant so much to the team & us fans. The fighting spirit was there for all to see. Danny Bloor was part of that fighting spirit but now the rug has been pulled away.

On today's performance, we will win more games than we lose.

With the new additions, determination, fighting spirit, loyal fans singing & shouting & Danny Bloor in charge, the tide may just have been turning. We were always in with a shout of staying up... if we kept fighting. Today, we saw just that... plenty of fight in the whole team. Proud of our boys.

Now, we will never know if Danny would have kept us up. Even if he didn't, we could have backed him next season in Step 3, as some have already stated.

However, we are Welling United fans and, as Polo has already mentioned, we have got to back our boys on Tuesday night. We want our team, our Welling, to do the best they can. Of course, it will be incredibly difficult to stay up, but we must support our team and encourage them to carry on fighting... just like today.

Danny Bloor knows what we think of him. He will remember us singing his name loud and clear today & hopefully he will find some comfort in that memory.



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It will be interesting to see just how many players want to stay with us to finish off the season with us after all this shambles.

For a new manager it is a total repeat of the mess Danny had to deal with on his arrival, not enough time to prepare, having to sign players in a rush, the owners dont learn from mistakes so keep repeating them. Peter Taylor was sacked with 10 games to go, when it was clear he had no solutions, which gave the replacement enough games to try to save us. This is different, since Christmas we have made massive changes and improved as a result. There are now 18 league games left, 7 points behind Taunton who are unlikely to win more than twice the rest of the season, so likely we will overtake them soon, and 10 points behind Dartford whose squad looks a mess, so also overtakeable in due course.

The sensible approach, would be play another 8 games with Danny, leaving just 10 games to go, by which time things would have been clearer one way or the other rather than stupidly gambling AGAIN on yet another managerial change, which may improve things, or may not, and resulting change of players that comes with it, who wont be good as you dont get good players this time of the season.

It is all so transparent and all confirms the upstairs people here are focused on the development, and then quickly sell up, pockets full, not interested in the football or anything long term.

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As a Welling fan, I'm not surprised by much, but this... WOW. Shocked and disgusted.

Thank you Danny Bloor. Much respect for having to pull rabbits out of hats for these clueless owners.

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Whats everyones opinions on taking action on this. How many years in a row now, weve sat back and weve continued to watch our club fall apart at our feet. Im more than happy to be ripped apart by saying this, but I truly believe some sort of action Is needed to force certain individuals to change. Iv simply had enough, thousands of miles every year to be treated like sh*t on a shoe! 



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FFS. You are ****ing joking me. No no Im dreaming surely

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Jimmy wrote:
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Goldfish taking charge on Monday.

Sometimes I despise this club. Shambles.


 Who's goldfish sorry?


 Alan's choice for the new manager.



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So in the past 7 hours, we've lost the Manager....

I would put money on that by the end of tomorrow we won't have aa CEO or a DOF/Assistant Manager.



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So in the past 7 hours, we've lost the Manager....

I would put money on that by the end of tomorrow we won't have aa CEO or a DOF/Assistant Manager.


 Im off to sleep outside the bookies tonight to make sure I get the best odds on that Polo. Pretty sure thats gonna be odds on. 



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The man with no shares (as far as im aware) or directorship having a say behind the scenes, quicker people wake up to the fact that he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the club the club the better. The tweets say it all really.



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At least Alan will be a happy man. 


 Hes probably to pissed to reply.....



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And all this just after losing BH and WB. Show some respect WUFC

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I know West Ham had Moyes, sacked him, then eventually realised their mistake, and reappointed him, and the club have been very successful since. It would be nice to think overnight Welling reflect on this knee jerk reaction, and realise it is a mistake, ill timed and premature, and continue with Danny after all. Nothing has been said publicly by Danny or the club, so it is still possible for them to privately agree a constructive way forward and carry on together.

If this sacking does go ahead, my personal view is it would not entirely be football related. The new CEO came in for stick for not being more active with the community, which I understood as I had also thought that much less was happening on that side than under Paul. But I put that down to the new CEO having to prioritise sorting out the club finances, which in the scale of things was the priority over community engagement.

That is because it is a chicken and egg situation, we have bad finances, but WHY do we have bad finances. Where is the money going? From what I gather, the new CEO was finding nasty surprises when looking at our expenses, money being spent on recurring bills no one was clear were actually for. So maybe certain people wanted that line of scrutiny stopped, so get rid of the manager and supporting CEO would be a way to keep the heat off. And let's not forget, football attracts some dodgy financial people, for example I can think of a club we met in a cup, that used football to money launder drugs money. So it would be a mistake to think this decision, if confirmed, is all football related. Indeed, when you look at the second half season football side, it supports the decision to keep Danny on, rather than leading to him needing to go, so makes no sense. It is all a massive own goal by Welling.

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Reading this thread says something about the respect Danny Bloor had from a lot of people.  There's probably not many managers who would get that with the amount of games won.  He deserved a better ending. 

As for a new manager I guess they have someone lined up who has been at our last two games. 



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Reading this thread says something about the respect Danny Bloor had from a lot of people.  There's probably not many managers who would get that with the amount of games won.  He deserved a better ending. 

As for a new manager I guess they have someone lined up who has been at our last two games. 


 Someone is pulling the  strings you could say. 



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Reading this thread says something about the respect Danny Bloor had from a lot of people.  There's probably not many managers who would get that with the amount of games won.  He deserved a better ending. 

As for a new manager I guess they have someone lined up who has been at our last two games. 


 Someone is pulling the  strings you could say. 


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Whats everyones opinions on taking action on this. How many years in a row now, weve sat back and weve continued to watch our club fall apart at our feet. Im more than happy to be ripped apart by saying this, but I truly believe some sort of action Is needed to force certain individuals to change. Iv simply had enough, thousands of miles every year to be treated like sh*t on a shoe! 


 100% but hard to not affect the team with its precarious position.  Supporters def need to be heard.  

 

I think the other problem is welling a club others would be interested in buying or was the previous sale just a passing of the guard from Goldberg to his cronies 



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Board can and will do what they like.
People saying sack the board how ?
Fans who helped save the club now feel disconnected even shafted.


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Reading this thread says something about the respect Danny Bloor had from a lot of people.  There's probably not many managers who would get that with the amount of games won.  He deserved a better ending. 

As for a new manager I guess they have someone lined up who has been at our last two games. 


 Someone is pulling the  strings you could say. 


 Indeed. They are stringing us along.



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Tuesday's game is the first the opportunity for home fans to pay their respects to BH and WB, sadly i fear this now could be over shadowed by recent events. I hope I am wrong.

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Ill not go to the match on Tuesday but I will pay my respects to BH when his cortège stops at PVR in 3 weeks time.



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I only talked with Keith Boanas once, when he explained to me what tactical changes he had advised at half time to turn round a game I had watched. His tactical knowledge really impressed me, as he had seen weaknesses in the opposition set up and how to exploit those, that I'd not seen.

He has a great track record of developing players, which is important for a team of limited resources like us, and was very successful when he was with us before.

So reading between the fishing lines I think I can see the future appointment fans here see, but Keith Boanas would be a great choice, with a much greater track record of success. The one flaw would be the lack of current knowledge of our division, but that is quickly fixed.

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I only talked with Keith Boanas once, when he explained to me what tactical changes he had advised at half time to turn round a game I had watched. His tactical knowledge really impressed me, as he had seen weaknesses in the opposition set up and how to exploit those, that I'd not seen.

He has a great track record of developing players, which is important for a team of limited resources like us, and was very successful when he was with us before.

So reading between the fishing lines I think I can see the future appointment fans here see, but Keith Boanas would be a great choice, with a much greater track record of success. The one flaw would be the lack of current knowledge of our division, but that is quickly fixed.


 Jimmie with all due respect the next manager has already been chosen and will be one who suits the owners/investors means whatever they might be.   There be no room for speculative/hopeful talk about potential suitors



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