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load of bollocks 



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load of bollocks 

 #fansnotflats get it trending



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Club is rotten at the core. It wont be a club come the end of the season.

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Who is this 'The Board' that made this decision?



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Great question
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They dont want you to know

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Just shows how useless the current Board is, why on Earth sack the guy, after a good away win, without a replacement in mind? Just indicates to me that they have no contacts who might be interested so will have to advertise. All very poor management and poor communication, everyone knew long before the club made a statement.

Ive see all the good and bad times over the decades, but I cant recall ever feeling so fed up with WUFC.



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Danny's cup record was impressive, P9 W6 D1 L2, so adding that onto the league results produces a competitive games total record of P37 W11 D10 L16.

Beating Hemel was a big achievement, they are no mugs, and needed the win for their play off hopes, so a great win there for us and a sign of better things to come in the remaining games. Can't predict the Hampton game, but we should win against Taunton and then the table will look much more promising.

If one looked at a compilation of each goals conceded so far one would realise the bad luck behind many of the results, as we have conceded lots of wrongly awarded penalties. We have also been unlucky with injuries, with too small a squad to give quality cover.

Sometimes one is sacked and one knows inside it is justified as one was complacent or made grave mistakes, but other times it is just because the other side has a prejudice against one for one reason or another. And prejudice is the real reason behind the dismissal, it is clearly not football related.

So Danny can walk away from this with his head held high, and actually longer term will look back and be glad to no longer be part of the madhouse that had led to continuous years of relegation battles because the people behind the club dont know how to make correct appointments, so when by chance they actually got one right in Danny, they didnt understand the reasons behind the early league results, or see things had improved in the second half of the season, so we were on an upward trajectory.

Football is full of people with massive egos, thinking they are better than others, so people like that have made the wrong decision to get rid of Danny.

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Probably one of the most gutless decisions made by the club in my 30 odd years of supporting Welling. Those responsible would seem to welcome relegation.

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This decision is an absolute disgrace, especially as it seems that Nepotism is the main motivation.

Gary Fiore has already floated the idea of AFC Welling United on social media. Quite unbelievable that it has come to that.



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Over the past two seasons, it has become ever more obvious that the weasels in charge are not here for the good of Welling United, but instead are here for their financial interest.

This decision for me is the icing on the cake. Buy kids tickets to games and dont spend a penny in the bar, these people are not what the club is about.

I hope that direct action is taken against the owners as I truly worry where we will be/ if we will be a club that in 2-3 seasons with these clowns in charge. If only we had a supporters club which wouldn't put up with this (Youd like to think!!)

 

Taylor Curran Out

Howard Prosser Out

Anyone else involved in these decisions for their financial gain can f*ck off too.

 

 



-- Edited by Luke on Sunday 28th of January 2024 10:33:33 AM



-- Edited by Luke on Sunday 28th of January 2024 11:11:21 AM

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On a positive, my sons 18th is coming up and would like a first team run out.
What's the going rate for the last half hour against league opposition?
Not that he's any good, but think he would enjoy it.
If you could keep the abuse to a minimum when he comes on, it would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Gary Fiore also resigned as Director of Football.



-- Edited by Wallop on Sunday 28th of January 2024 10:35:39 AM

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Is it not time for the supporters of the club to resign from the board?
Perhaps a show of unity is in order?

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KOTR wrote:

Great question
Nobody knows
They dont want you to know

 Well there are only 2 directors at Companies House,  Prosser and the Chairman of WUSA. Then you have the shareholders. The Chairman of WUSA should be able to tell you who is on the board.



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Baffling decision to sack him at this stage of the season, even more so after the win yesterday.

Will be sad to see Bloor go, a top man who was always approachable and had a lot of time for the fans.

Highly under resourced and not given much backing at all, was always going to be a tough job from word go.

This club has been stagnating for years now and relegation is all but certain, hard to be excited for the future right now.

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I won't be spending any money at the bar for the rest of season! And people who know me would know I love a pint or 10

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Dowse is available

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So with only two directors named on the Welling United C.I.C. with companies house being Prosser & Matt (WUSA Chairman and our supporters representative) and the statement issued saying the board sacked Bloor then there is nothing else to do but for Matty to resign from the board in opposition to Prosser and the decision made yesterday and the way it was made and why it was made.

You either oppose the decision and resign or you were part of the decision and helped make it which Im sure you didnt??? Either way the position of remaining on the board in collusion with Prosser and co against the supporters own views and wishes is untenable.

Do the right thing mate, you can not stand by and defend this circus any longer.

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I haven't logged in for a while. Some of you will know I sold the pub (new owners are lovely though!), and I moved away for work.

Good grief. What an absolute mess. I thought working with Goldberg was bad - this lot seem absolutely dreadful.

I keep a fleeting glance at the league table and see it's not being going very well at all. The halcyon days for me of watching that Brad guy, the manager who had been at Braintree, with those Colchester loanees bringing joyous football. Sounds like it's all gone.

And to see the idea that this is probably a deliberate run-down to enable to man in charge to justify wrecking Park View Road.

Sorry guys. I really am. It's a horrible thing to have been on here today, reading lots of old threads, seeing lots of different bits and realising what's going on. I had no idea.

Got everything crossed for you all.

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You know because of the timing there is a tiny bit of speculation.
It must be said there is nothing to support anything so its purely coincidence or not and nothing else.

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Gary Fiore came in for a lot of misguided stick here, which I thought at the time seemed likely to be misplaced, as Gary has always struck me as a guy who is fine to be behind the scenes directing things, without the ego to be the centre of attention, so it seemed unlikely he suddenly went bonkers and forced himself onto pre match warm up and onto the bench!

Gary has just said on X "It is with regret that following the dismissal of Danny Bloor I formally resign as Director of Football; which includes any involvement at the senior end of the club. @wellingunited".

I have only ever had a few words in passing with Gary, but he impressed me with his ability to quickly see through the previous manager and unlike some not be concerned about keeping that hidden until that manager had gone. Good too that he has similarly stood up for his views over Danny.

Paul gone, Gary gone, Danny gone, just the owner and Matt left on the board, so hardly any experience showing in decisions, which is why the wrong one was made about Danny, as it seems to be the approach of getting rid of anyone who disagrees.

The announcement said, "due to the teams league position and recent league form being as it has been, the board have made the decision to change the management while there is still sufficient time in the season left for the required points to be obtained to, hopefully, secure National League South survival." However all the recent league matches from Dartford onwards showed great improvement, even though the results didnt always match the performances.

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Such a horrible week with RIPS. Now I think it's simply RIP Welling. Thank you Bloor and Garry.

Owners / Clowns / Thieves - just go.

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Perhaps Matt should make a statement

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Westbrookewing wrote:

Perhaps Matt should make a statement

 Perhaps Matt won't.



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Well Prosser isn't going to make a statement. Perhaps someone on the board should show the fans some respect.

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They just want to bulldoze the ground and make probably £millions building ****ty flats - that's all they care about. The more they demoralise the fan base and drive them away, the easier it will be to get what they want in the long run

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J wrote:

They just want to bulldoze the ground and make probably £millions building ****ty flats - that's all they care about. The more they demoralise the fan base and drive them away, the easier it will be to get what they want in the long run

 Guessing Matt must want the same then as he's on the board. Strange, as I don't really know him, but what I have seen is that he's passionate in his support for Welling. Alternatively he's been hoodwinked but he comes across as being pretty sharp



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J wrote:

They just want to bulldoze the ground and make probably £millions building ****ty flats - that's all they care about. The more they demoralise the fan base and drive them away, the easier it will be to get what they want in the long run

 Building flats will have enough objections from local residents. If supporters of the Borough's Largest Football Club are also against it then they will find it difficult

 



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What involvement does Jerry Dolke now have at the club ?

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What involvement does Jerry Dolke now have at the club ?

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Danny won 2 of his last 3 games, so spin that recent results weren't good enough doesnt really stand up to inspection. It is clear something was up against Danny when attention misleadingly gets directed to a poor coaching performance against Bath, with no recognition that every match since that was really competitive, focussed and effective, undone by a penalty incorrectly awarded against us, and a defender responsible for 3 goals after playing kamikaze football.

It is an odd season, you could pretty much be sure Danny, Dowse and Steve King would end up in play off spots, as their teams do that most seasons, and are arguably the most successful NLS managers (I cant think of anyone who has been more successful). Yet this year all 3 were sacked way before the season's end. But performances havent improved for the teams sacking Dowse and King, so sacking the manager isnt always the solution if the problem is the players. It is clear to all our big problem was in attack, we brought in new striking force against play off team Hemel, won 2 - 1, and the strong start to the second half carried on.

It was silly sacking the manager on the Saturday with a match on Tuesday, if the decision had to be made, which it didnt, it would be better make it on Saturday 10 Feb after the Barnet cup game, as it is a week until our next match, and we'd have played Taunton by then which is very winnable, and Hampton, which would be winnable if we play our best, so by then even the owner would see the corner had been turned and things were improving. It is a shame we had postponed games against Havant and Truro as those were winnable and would have made the table look more promising.

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What involvement does Jerry Dolke now have at the club ?

 According to companies house listing he is shown as a person with significant interest with more than 25% and less than 50% of the shareholding. This information is freeley available on the companies house website for anyone to see along with who the shareholders are.



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Jerry Dolke was previously the brother in law of Mark Goldberg, and said at the time, "Hes my best friend and brother-in-law, I see him on a day-to-day basis in both business and football."

I will leave it to others to speculate if their business connection continues behind the scene via the development plans for Welling.

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Jimmie wrote:

Jerry Dolke was previously the brother in law of Mark Goldberg, and said at the time, "Hes my best friend and brother-in-law, I see him on a day-to-day basis in both business and football."

I will leave it to others to speculate if their business connection continues behind the scene via the development plans for Welling.

 Given the above, it doesn't take the powers of Job to work that one out!



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I am delighted that Danny Bloor is no longer manager at Welling United. 5 wins in the league simply isn't good enough after 29 matches. I have always thought that Ben Austin was always really running the team and more latterly Gary Fiore. Danny Bloor isn't a good football manager. Eastbourne fans told me he was a man motivator and inspirational speaker. He was lost once his coaching team resigned which is why he called upon Gary Fiore. I agree the timing is odd but maybe the board felt that the win means if we bring in a proper football manager we might just get the points we need to stay up.

Danny Bloor was a PR man who everyone liked and I agree he is a nice man and I'm sorry he has lost his job in so much as I think it's sad when anyone loses their job. I do believe though that perhaps we now have a fighting chance to stay up but in all honesty I think it's a big ask and the managerial change has come too late. It should have happened at Christmas.

The bit I agree with you all on is the future of Welling United Football Club. I do believe the owners are more interested in the development than the Football Club. I can see Gary Fiore being the owner of a phoenix club based at the academy site. Why else build 2 pitches one with spectator space. There seem to be things going on behind the scenes that are a mystery. Some clarity would be good rather than all the endless speculation.

My wish is the new manager is just that, the manager, who makes all the team selections and is in charge. It would be great if he was a nice guy but the most important thing is he can do the job, nice or not. If we have a manager ALL the fans can unite behind and support that would be ideal. Hopefully, we can have a manager for a substantial period of time who can bring the stability and security to the club. Build a team where we can retain a core of the players, make progress and end the turmoil of recent seasons.




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I am delighted that Danny Bloor is no longer manager at Welling United. 5 wins in the league simply isn't good enough after 29 matches. I have always thought that Ben Austin was always really running the team and more latterly Gary Fiore. Danny Bloor isn't a good football manager. Eastbourne fans told me he was a man motivator and inspirational speaker. 

 All part of modern football - lots of managers aren't running the coaching. In my opinion, the manager should 100% be a good motivator and a also a close link with the fans.



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I am delighted that Danny Bloor is no longer manager at Welling United. 5 wins in the league simply isn't good enough after 29 matches. I have always thought that Ben Austin was always really running the team and more latterly Gary Fiore. Danny Bloor isn't a good football manager. Eastbourne fans told me he was a man motivator and inspirational speaker. He was lost once his coaching team resigned which is why he called upon Gary Fiore. I agree the timing is odd but maybe the board felt that the win means if we bring in a proper football manager we might just get the points we need to stay up.

Danny Bloor was a PR man who everyone liked and I agree he is a nice man and I'm sorry he has lost his job in so much as I think it's sad when anyone loses their job. I do believe though that perhaps we now have a fighting chance to stay up but in all honesty I think it's a big ask and the managerial change has come too late. It should have happened at Christmas.

The bit I agree with you all on is the future of Welling United Football Club. I do believe the owners are more interested in the development than the Football Club. I can see Gary Fiore being the owner of a phoenix club based at the academy site. Why else build 2 pitches one with spectator space. There seem to be things going on behind the scenes that are a mystery. Some clarity would be good rather than all the endless speculation.

My wish is the new manager is just that, the manager, who makes all the team selections and is in charge. It would be great if he was a nice guy but the most important thing is he can do the job, nice or not. If we have a manager ALL the fans can unite behind and support that would be ideal. Hopefully, we can have a manager for a substantial period of time who can bring the stability and security to the club. Build a team where we can retain a core of the players, make progress and end the turmoil of recent seasons.


 Thought youd be delighted no



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It is very unimpressive you produced stats in support of Warren that included all the meaningless non competitive pre season friendlies to boost his win percentages because you like him, but only consider Danny's league results, and edit out all his cup and friendly wins because you dont like him. I was told you asked Danny to sign your programme, hopefully he wrote "Judas, all the best, Danny".

Yes, Danny made mistakes. As you always get things the wrong way round you didnt notice that Ben wasnt the tactical power you think he is, and once the dust settles I bet Danny will wish he had realised that earlier. As Gary said, he wishes he had helped out 5 - 7 games earlier. With Gary's help we P3 W2 D0 L1 F4 A2, had turned the corner, so it wasnt a football decision to stop things with Danny.

It is clear that Danny's management style of delegation went way over your head, but there are managers like that. Alex Ferguson for example often didnt attend the training sessions. Lots of managers dont make signings and just manage who is bought for them. Anyway, you are glad Danny has gone, and I feel sorry for Rod if you ask him to sign your programme, as you will then soon be saying he should go.

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Jimmie, I have a lot on today and we have the match today but I will write a reply tomorrow and I will include all of Danny's stats just to prove I'm not bias. I have nothing against Danny Bloor personally, he is a nice chap and yes I did ask him to sign my programme as I have every single manager and as many of the players that I can since I started following Welling United in 2015. I only ever want what is best for the club. Yes massive clubs have coaches for every part of the team but the manager still has the final say and at the lower league levels I think it is more important. If you read all my comments it is only recently I've wanted Danny sacked. I have always been a believer in continuality and not sacking a manager at the drop of a hat. I think the upturn in recent form was more down to Gary Fiore and I was resigned to that management team being in place for the rest of the season. I wanted Bradley Quinton to stay and Peter Taylor and Warren Feeney they were all doing OK results wise and I felt each had the ability to do the job. The alarm bells started ringing for me at the meet the manager evening. Every question asked about formations, leaving one up at corners and goalkeepers on the bench he referred to the coaches. It suggested to me they were the ones really running the team and that bothered me at this level. Why not just have them as the manager and coach especially if money is so tight. I guess the first time I really believed it was better to have a new manager was when we lost at home to Eastbourne.

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Sidcup Graham is spot on.

Alan, as we speak it's 5 wins from 28 league matches. Surprised our Super Statistician, Johnny, didn't pull you on that! Hopefully, if we play like we did at Hemel, it will be 6 wins from 29 league matches, tonight. We have to get a minimum of 3 points from H&R and Taunton for sure.

In any event, we must unite & get behind the new manager to give our boys the best possible chance of staying up.

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