Jimmie, no need to concern yourself with my humorous comments, your continued hypotheses, excessive diatribe and statwankery (the word you can't relate to yourself) have driven me against contributing further to this forum. By the way, a young at heart senior citizen is my preferred description. Thank you. Bye folks and good luck.

-- Edited by bexleylion on Tuesday 30th of January 2024 06:19:09 PM

Hello Jimmie, the reply I promised you with stats. Please believe I have put bias aside and I have never had a problem with any of the managers on a personal level. I have always found each and every one of them approachable and friendly and let's be honest there have been a lot!

To answer your question fully, I need to go back to Peter Taylor I was very disappointed when he was sacked I didn't want that. I saw him as a well respected ex footballer who had played and managed at the highest level. I thought he had the ability to save us from relegation but the board decided the club needed a new manager. If you remember he was sacked after a credible and much needed away draw at Billericay Town.

On to Danny Bloor, the stats you asked for P44 W12 D11 L21. That translates in W28% D25% L47%. As you asked I have included all the matches, league, cups and friendlies. Friendlies don't really support your argument because Danny only won 1 out of 7 played including the early season friendly against Billericay Town. The cups do though and I hold my hand up to that. I know many of you don't but I see friendlies as important because they lay the foundation and build confidence. We went into the season on a bad run. Played an unfit player at Truro and had to sub him after maybe only 20 minutes. The loss at Sevenoaks Town was embarrassing. You shouldn't lose to a team 2 Divisions below you no matter what team you put out and if you do it shouldn't be 7-1. Our form over the season has been patchy at best and the more I saw the more I was convinced it was Ben Austin actually running the team and latterly Gary Fiore which saw an improvement in form and results. I've witnessed poor team selections, some poor recruitment and a team that can only play one way. Even when we were losing we never tried to change things up. Substitutions were like for like. It should have been obvious our early season strikers couldn't play up top on their own. After we lost at home to Eastbourne and after speaking to their fans I really lost faith and as much as I hate changing managers quickly and worse mid season too I believed it best for Welling United. The post match interviews became tedious with I'll take the positives out of that (We never seemed to though because they weren't translated to the following match) and the we only just lost, we were unlucky blah blah. We were still losing time and time again with nothing changing. It seemed to me everyone, board and fans had accepted relegation and that as Danny Bloor is a likeable fella it's acceptable. I don't get why the fans are so supportive of him just because he's nice and says Up the Wings. I was as surprised and as shocked as the rest of you at the timing of the sacking. I had accepted it would be Danny Bloor/Gary Fiore for the rest of this season and had everything crossed we wouldn't be relegated but believed we would. I understand Eastbourne Borough offered him a job upstairs in the summer but he wanted to remain in the dugout. I think Danny Bloor is a great PR man and would be very well suited to a job upstairs either with Eastbourne Borough or Welling United. As a team manager sorry I just don't think he is the right man. Yes, I do get delegation and the use of coaches but think you have to be more hands on at this level.

I was asked why I hadn't called for the previous manager to be sacked when he only won 1 out of 11. The answer is I felt he had enough previous credit in the bank. He had saved us from relegation the previous season and had already won 5 leagues games by 13th September 2022. I thought he had the ability to turn things around and keep us up. In the end I was proved right and we stayed up comfortably.

In my eyes every game is important including friendlies and minor cups but if you take those friendlies out then Danny Bloor P37 W11 D10 L16 - W30% D27% L43% Warren Feeney P68 W24 D17 L27 - W35% D25% L40%

What it really boils down to is faith. I had confidence in both Peter Taylor's and Warren Feeney's ability to be a 1st team football manager and I didn't have that confidence in Danny Bloor. That's just my feeling and opinion and has nothing to do with personality or budgets.

Jimmie, I Can't argue with any of your reasoning. Ultimately, as I said it comes down to if you have confidence in the manager or not. I agree budgets do make a difference at every level of football. It is quite possible Danny Bloor and Steve Lovell would have been more successful on bigger budgets and Warren Feeney on a smaller budget might have struggled but we will never know nor do we know if Peter Taylor or Danny Bloor would have kept their team in the Division. Guardiola and Ancelotti have always been successful managers but they have always managed big clubs with big budgets. Are they good managers? Would they be successful with say Sutton United or Forest Green Rovers? All I'm trying to say is the more I saw Danny Bloor the less I was convinced by his style of management because I think it is too over reliant on other people but it is just my opinion.

What was that Alan?

I miss the days of reading a post on here and it having something to do with the subject heading.