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This could be a large one as the actress said to the bishop.


We seem to be all over the shop as supporters. WUISA sabotaged, New associations are a bit of a closed shop not democratic and have failed. Russ seems to be struggling with the sites he runs as the WIE still has the last 3 matches of last season to be done and the WUISA site has had the guts under construction for approaching a year. Minutes page/Sponsor a goal etc etc etc.


WUISA has over 3 grand in the coffers and its increasing, TG is STILL raising money and doing the lotteries. WSU are also trying to raise funds and hose funds were always voted on and then shown to the members how it was spent by them... the members. Including a £2000 interferntial machine.


Now i believe this to be the case.... Those involved in WSU in the main sabotaged WUISA as they couldnt take it over, WUISA was independent of the club and that was why it had over 100 and odd paid members and functions etc were better supported than the friends iof Welling/WPC/WSU. People havent got behind the WSU because...


 


1 its too close to the club and raises funds that just go into the club and no one knows how much is raised , donated, spent, where are the accounts/expenses?


2 some of the fans involved in WSU were instrumental is trying to close the WUISA and have been abusive at grounds and or message boards.


3 there are those that want to just shovel money at the club with no say and those that want to be part of an association that isnt controlled by the club and sanctioned,


4 Those involved in the WSU have been treated with biase by the club. And given perks etc.


 


So what do we do? Well you either start again and make it totally democratic, ie all of the 600 fans get to put themselves forward and people vote. Minutes get published. Democratic comitte gets voted in and regular news is published.


I came accross the havent supporters arm and it looks ORGANISED which we havent had since WUISA.


Now im trying to be constructive so no abuse please!! Clearly it is broke so needs fixing.


Russ needs help on the sites it seems are too few trying to do too much? Is this part of the reason its not successful. Use this thread to post some ideas and try to keep it constructive.


 


 


Below is Havants set up.


 

HawkSupport

Hello, and welcome to HawkSupport, the newly reformed Supporters Association for fans of Havant and Waterlooville FC. HawkSupport rises out of the ashes of the old Hawks Travel Club and has been formed to help both the Supporters and Havant and Waterlooville Football Club itself by raising funds throughout the season. The mission statement for HawkSupport is:



  • To Support the team
  • To enhance the profile of Havant and Waterlooville Football Club
  • To be a central point of contact for all supporters
  • To generate a bond between the Supporters and the Club
  • To co-ordinate and participate in fundraising and social events for all at the Club

Two meetings have so far been held to elect a committee for the forthcoming season, and to brainstorm ideas for fundraising and profile enhancement for both HawkSupport and HWFC, and this first update gives you some idea of where we are at present.

The Committee:

After meetings in late July / early August, the following committee were elected for the forthcoming 2005/2006 season:

Chairman: Vice Chairman: Mark Pope Secretary: Simon Lynch Treasurer: Simon Lynch Committee: Les Hyson
Steph Parry
Sharon Tween
Rich Self
Barry Gamlin
Rich Pope
Tracey Emery
Malc Jamieson
At the end of the 2005/2006 season / start of the 2006/2007 season the above positions will be made available for election.

HawkSupport so far...

In just a couple of meetings the committee of HawkSupport have already come up with a number of ideas to raise money, reinforce the bond between supporters and the club and to raise awareness of the club through the local media. These include:



  • Car Boot Sales. We’re in discussions with the local councils to run a number of car boot sales in the car parks of Westleigh Park, with the proceeds going to HawkSupport. Negotiations are still ongoing, but we’ll keep you updated on progress.
  • Decoration days. To help keep the club costs down, and for us fans to keep busy throughout the season, there will be a series of days where we can help to spruce up Westleigh Park. Details of the first days to be advised so watch this space!
  • HawkSupport Player of the Month awards. Based upon both home and away games the members of HawkSupport will vote on who they think has been the best player each month, and a trophy will be awarded to that player.
  • Raffle / Auction at the Portsmouth pre-season friendly game. The funds raised from this will be split between HawkSupport and HWFC, and these funds will help cover the set-up costs of HawkSupport.
  • The Great Weather Lottery. This is another fundraising initiative that is currently being set up, and will give you the chance of winning up to £10,000 per day for an outlay of just £1 per week. HawkSupport will benefit to the tune of around 30p for every £1 spent. Watch this space for further details.
  • Publicity of HawkSupport through the local media, for example The News and Radio Solent is already underway.
  • Many more fundraising initiatives will also take place throughout the season. However, we need your contribution to both thinking up ideas and helping them take place. So if you have any ideas please let us know.

It has been agreed that any monies raised by events initiated by HawkSupport will be banked in our own bank account and at the end of the season a decision will be taken as to how best to use the funds raised. This could include purchasing items for either HawkSupport or HWFC.

So how do you join?

Joining couldn’t be easier. Please click on the application form link, print it off, complete it and send to the address on the form. To download the form online you will need adobe acrobat reader installed. Click the second link to get this from adobe's site. Membership forms will be available at games. We will also shortly be able to accept payments via Paypal.

The membership fees for 2006/2007 season are (renewal fee in brackets):

Adults (UK) £6 (£5) Adults (Overseas) £9 (£8) Children (UK) £4 (£3) Children (Overseas) £7 (£6)
For your membership fees you’ll receive:



  • HawkSquawk, the bi-monthly HawkSupport newsletter.
  • A membership card.
  • An enamel HawkSupport badge (new members only)
  • 10% off in the club shop.
  • Discounts on any HawkSupport organised events, potentially including away travel.

EXISTING MEMBERS CAN USE THIS FORM TO RENEW




Thanks for reading our first update on HawkSupport, and we hope that you’ll join and help both the Supporters and the Club reach their goals. See you at HawkSupport events in the near future.

Thanks,
The Committee,
HawkSupport

If you have any questions or suggestions for Hawksupport activities, please get in contact via hawksupport@havantandwaterlooville.net



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Note


 


ELECTED COMMITTEE


BANKED and DECIDED ON WHAT TO SPEND THE FUNDS etc etc


Similar to the WUISA


 


If the WUISA is dead (or is it waiting for those in the WSU to give up/go away etc etc) then something NEW with different people and democracy needs to be sorted. Professionally run by a knowledgable committee that has the skills to raise funds and attract support to the cause.


This could be a great thread or it could decend into anymouse abuse.



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Wings on the Web is no more due to the infighting and bullying and games and also lack of ambition by the owners - I give up. People can continue to follow the Club by visiting the OFFICIAL SITE and by visiting the fans forum HERE . Its been real. 29 Years of hurt, poor performances, under acheiving is all part of supporting a team, bullying, abuse and gossipping isnt. To those fans now in bed with the club , you have sold your souls and opinions and shown you are two faced, when you decide you will turn again on the club your words will fall on deaf ears. You will need to find another way to boost your ego's then my final message to those fans is as follows....


Taken from that annoying page that appears when I log on


Thought you had given up!!!!!!!!!!!


The club/fans etc are doing ok thanks


 


 


 



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First things first, Harvey you don’t have to reach this forum via the now defunct WOTW site as I’m sure you know. You can simply bookmark the site from the Forum Home page.

Now to the subject of the subject of the thread. We all know that JgFc has some seemingly unique and somewhat negative views on various issues (WSU, his perception that there is lack of ambition at the Club, income from cup competitions to name a few) and openly posts them but lets not forget that he also makes positive and constructive posts. The point he raises is in my opinion one worthy of debate so lets for a minute just take the posting on its own merit and not start from the perspective that its from JgFc so ignore it as it must be ‘negative crap.’

I don’t have an exhaustive knowledge of either WUISA or WSU so if I have got things wrong I’d be only too pleased to be corrected.

If my reading of the post is correct the underlying points are
• that with a bit of organisation the club could boast a healthy supporters club/association with far more members than in the current WSU and WUISA (which I must confess if it wasn’t for the occasional posting of lottery winners I would think had ceased to exist and I’m sure that many on the terraces believe that it has ceased to exist.)
• there are people trying to promote the Club but they need more help to ensure a constant up to date information/news of events service
• It is possible, with a bit more focus, organisation, and participation to raise more funds for the benefit of both the supporters club and the Club itself

My take on the points individually are as follows

Point 1. There appear to be 2 bodies in existence, WUISA and WSU.
WUISA, the membership of which I am not aware and about which very little or nothing has been heard of in the past 18 months to 2 years. It is however still raising funds and has in excess of £3,000, raised for the benefit of the supporters and the Club, laying dormant in the bank.

WSU, again the membership of which I am not certain but if I recall correctly holds open meetings at PVR on the first Thursday in the month which is dedicated to working for the development of Welling United and raises funds through events such as sponsor a goal, quiz nights, race nights etc. I don’t know if this is an ad hoc group of people or a club which supporters would actually join and pay annual subscriptions to though I suspect it is the former and any monies given to the Club would equate to charitable donations made without consultation with those who contributed to it.

Without having an annual membership can WSU be seen as a supporter’s club/association? If it is not then I can see no reason why WSU and WUISA cannot coexist to the benefit of the club and as far as I can see it is only the acrimonious split on both sides which prevents this from happening. Perhaps the answer is for a new supporters club/association to be set up from scratch utilising the combined fund raising, social event organisation and internet talents (and donkey work associated with them) from both organisations.

Point 2. WSU have a website which is maintained by Russ. Unfortunately it is not maintained on a regular basis and there are several pages which have been under construction since it began. By the very nature of things having a website means that it becomes a focal point for those seeking information. Having only sporadic updates and pages such as the minutes of meetings and details of the sponsor a goal having been under construction since the site opened can raise doubts and on balance in my view would have been better omitted until there was a page to display. I’ve no reason to suspect that the website is a closed shop and that if it were offered Russ would appreciate some assistance in the form of contributions, typing up the pages etc and that this would only serve to further the cause of the WSU.

I don’t have any idea about how the fundraising events are organised but I suspect that more help would also be appreciated to share the load.

As far as WUISA goes I know that Terry Grant is still running a lottery from the periodic publication of prizewinners on the forum but that is all I know about WUISA fundraising.

Point 3. The more people who get involved in fund raising, provided they remain focused on their role, the more varied and ambitious the events can be. With only the same small group or even an individual doing the fund raising it will always be limited by their particular skills and the amount of time they can devote to it. I’m sure that there are people out there with useful skills and contacts, and perhaps even some who could sponsor more ambitious fund raising projects – take Dartford’s Golf Day on 18 July which is being sponsored by SMC Ford of Crayford as an example of what can be done.

The wider the net is cast the more chance there is of bringing people in. For illustration purposes say someone came up with a fundraising idea which needed an input of skills or even just people to do the legwork. Word could be put out and the website could have an item saying we would like to arrange xyz fundraiser but in order to do it we need someone who can do a and/or someone who has contacts with b and/or some people to do some legwork to work as part of a team to deliver it.

I’m not guaranteeing that it would work but it wouldn’t cost much in terms of time and would surely be worth a try whatever the outcome.

Combining all three points the Havant example seems to be an a route which Welling United Supporters could take to the benefit of both themselves and the Club. It would however need the recent past to be put behind us and whilst I for one would like to see that happen I’m not sure that is a universally held view and consequently how possible that is.


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Another constructive post from Harvey!


The club and fans arent doing alright. The supporters have not got behind the WSU/WPC/Friends of Welling.


Bruno raises some very good points. I will be interested in the replies. Harvey if the anonymous log in youve created is only to post abuse,snipe and stir then i wouldnt bother. You obviously are connected to either the WSU or the club in your opinions but no one seems to know a Harvey, strange!


Perhaps part of that is because the Minutes and sponsor a goal pages have NEVER been updated and the Events and News are hardly done and the last front page editorial stems back to November?


 


So if those currently running the WSU cannot manage and it isnt supported anywhere near as much as the previous independent association then things need to change.


PS i have no link to the WUISA at all, have NEVER held any position in it and WOTW was not connected to the WUISA either. It was however, organised,democratic,documented and supported. Something which the WSU/WPC/Freinds of Welling and whatever it will be called in its next unveiling is.



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Could i add that any members of WUISA ( Welling United Independent Supporters Association) who would like any info or the latest news should direct their email to the Secretary at terry@pvr.co.uk . Also email that address if you wish to join the lottery that is run by the wuisa.


 The Association is a member of the various Fans Associations and represents the Supporters of Welling United at various meetings and events throught the UK. Aswell as raising funds.



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Harvey is about as anonymous as JGFC which is NOT your real name so therefore is a pseudonym - so don't give me any of that bollocks


 


The club has no ties to the WUISA and the money is being collected from less than 20 individuals who have not got round to cancelling their subscription.


 


Bruno has some very fair points and I would like to meet up with him soon to discuss.


 


The ONLY group that is doing anything for the club is the WSU the WUISA is no more and so any funds should be passed to the club.


 


JGFC basically just wants to see the end of the club and any supporters that it has. He has attended about 3 games in the last 6 years so i think that any thoughts that he has about any players etc are totally invalid as he wouldn't know who they were if they tapped him on the shoulder in the street.


 


I know who cares about the club


I know who the WSU are


I know nearly 90% of the rest of the support


I have said it before and I will say it again


Ready


 


95% of Welling supporters agree that the WSU are doing a great job - That is not a guess it is knowledge - Yes they have been asked!!!


 


Bruno - you ask if the two associations could get on - unlikely as there is only one - it is NOT a membership association it is basically for the good of WUFC.


 


Events arranged


Coaches run to away games


Supporters team run


Work achieved around the ground for the benefit of all


Money put into playing staff


 


Enough - do you want me to go on??


 


Right ready for the slagging that will only show exactly where you are coming from


 


This board (sorry Bruno because i think you are doing your very best) is dead while there are people coming on here who are hellbent on ruining whatever we have.


JGFC - Why not attend the first 10 games of the season then we can ALL have a chat - Ooops sorry you will answer that you will not attend the club while blah blah blah - excuse after excuse


 


 


 


 


 



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You also mntion that the WSU needs more help - absolutley


 


get involved - go for it


 


It is the future


 


 



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Oh Dear


 


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Harvey,


I agree with a lot of the points you have raised.  However, I would just like to point out the following:


 



  • The WUISA lottery is not simply funded by those 'who have not got around to cancelling their direct debit'.  I pay into it, I occasionally win (and I pay by standing order).
  • The WUISA does indeed have no ties with the club, but that was the club's choice, not the WUISA's.  WUISA attempted to get closer ties with the club on many occasions, but this was declined for reasons only known to the club.  This in spite of the good intent of WUISA in donating a £2000 interferential machine to the club.
  • It is not simply a case of the WUISA being able to give all its money to the club.  When WUISA was set up, a WUISA constitution was produced, which was agreed by the members at that time.  In order for money to be released, that constitution has to be adhered to.

 


Apart from all that I think you make some good points!



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Absolute bollox harvey


 


Events arranged NOT AS MANY AS WUISA or AS WELL POPULATED FACT



 


Coaches run to away games  LMAO - Dont you mean cancelled?



 


Supporters team run WAS BEFORE WSU FACT as they asked WUISA to sponsor them, when only a few of them were members!!



 


Work achieved around the ground for the benefit of all ,WUISA PAID FOR WORK TO BE DONE BEFORE THE WSU FACT. [Content removed at the request of Graham Hobbins as the sums claimed are factually incorrect. bruno]



 


Money put into playing staff. WUISA Gave money to the manger to sign players FACT


 


 


You spout a lot of what the clubs owner says and in his style. I did like the give the club all the money, thats why the wuisa was set up , so they could pay for work that needed doing or help out financially. The club just "wanted all the money" . So now we see why the WSU/WPCFOW are NOT supported as much because people do not want to shovel money at the club when no success has happened for 21 years.


The WUISA offered to pay for work etc and asked the club what needed doing. Infact the Club told Mark Fenton (Now SAG cheif with WSU) that the WUISA were F8cking parasites and the club do not want the money.


 


So Harvey please dont spout the bible according to St Wings Owner. Debate fine but you use more spin than Muralitheran!! and Shane Warne combined.


The forum is used by Anons such as you to try to bully a view on the rest of the fans. The club tries to use the WSU in the same way. Could i also add that WSU is the THIRD attempt at an organisation sanctioned by the club after WPC and FOW.


Now ive used a lot of FACTS there Harvey, but you keep it up. After version 107 of the Clubs cash raking arm (Wheres the commercial dept??) im sure there will be wholehearted support.


When Hobbins is gone or spends some of the profits i will return. The Cup wins/receipts from last year are still somewhere, maybe its being spent on getting the players from steps 6 and 7 of the pyramid for the assault on the league this season. Dont forget WE are going for it this year.



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Gentlemen, please try and keep your personal animosity in the words used and/or tone of your postings under control as it can only serve to detract from what you are saying. The bottom line of JgFc's original posting as I read it was to suggest that there was a potential way of increasing the number of supporters taking an active interest in the Club outside of just paying their £10 through the turnstile, which has potential to benefit both the supporters themselves and the Club. I would venture to suggest that the lack of postings on what is a fundamental issue is in part due to the fact that people don't want to get involved in a war of words where the issue is overtaken by personal attacks.

The thread is a sensitive one as there is history and strong feelings but if all could approach it in the way that Moo has done I'm sure we would all learn something irrespective of whether at the end of the day there is enough support for the suggested way forward or not. Lets actually learn something from the past rather than try and score points.

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Distilling what has been posted to date
• There are two bodies which supporters can be involved in WSU and WUISA.
• WUISA does still exist and not simply because people are lax in not cancelling their membership of the lottery.
• WUISA is a member of the various Fans Associations and still represents the Supporters of Welling United at various meetings and events throughout the UK.
• WUISA's record of fundraising exceeds that of the WSU.
• WUISA has funds lying dormant which can only be released for causes agreed and voted on by their membership, something more than one person has stated lies behind WUISA/Club poor relationship.
• WSU is not a membership organisation.
• WSU and WUISA(when it was active) provide(d) and support(ed) broadly the same things.

So
• We have two organisations with basically the same objectives, one has a membership the other is an ad hoc group of supporters.
• History shows that the constitution based body was able to raise more funds and was therefore in a position to provide more for both supporters and the club.

I have absolutely no desire to decry the WSU who have put every effort into providing more for supporters and the Club but the underlying message does seem to be that an organised membership body creates more of a sense of belonging to ‘the supporter on the terrace’ and ultimately has more potential to reach people with skills to draw upon and potentially higher participation in events etc.

Whilst we all share one thing in common and that is our support of Welling United, I believe that tangible things, be it the simple membership card and badge, a regular newsletter and dare I say it discounts, generate a sense of belonging. This is what the Havant example provides.


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I think the bottom line is that the WUISA was independent of sanctions and control of the club. They also voted on what the money would be spent on. You will see from Harveys attitude the club just want the money and the fans to have no say where it goes. The club simply want the fans to have no say.


Why were WUISA events so popular, Why did they raise so much money? Why did a group of people try to sabotage the WUISA.


The WSU is wholly sanctioned by the club to generate money that is just given to the club. They may try to go more association based and suggest what the money could be spent on BUT that would only come from the club in the first place.


The Havant supporters act independently of the club, The money is retained in their account and the independent members vote democratically on what it will be spent on. The committee is also voted democratically. Not a group of bully who just take over and then slag off other people and try to sabotage the rest of the supporters.


WSU/WPC/FOW is dead and a non supported anonymous cash raking arm of the club run by supporters who have been abusive at games on forums and in person to others. It is a bit like the club in cutting corners and not doing things properly imho.


 



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I have no axe to grind with anyone re supporting the club in different ways but can see all points that have been made.


However I have just got back from the Danson festival and was impressed by the size of area dedicated to WUFC and the no of supporters, presumably from the WSU helping out. It is certainly good publicity for the club ad while I was there Jamie Turner and Danny K were in attendance.


I would personally like to thank those who gave up their weekend or whatever time to promote the clubs name in the community and would be interested to hear how much was raised.



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When do WUISA have there meetings and what are doing at the moment for our club with this money that is sitting there this isnt a dig im just interested?

I gave up my whole saturday and my girlfriend gave up her whole weekend to help out at the danson festival to raise the profile of the club in the community and then i come on here and its the same stuff again and MUST SAY THIS KEEPS COMING UP TIME AND TIME AGAIN AND IM BORED OF IT.

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did jgfc attend the danson festival?

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I certainly saw that there was heavy interest in the Welling United area at the show and that there was still interest in the shot speed competition as late as 5.45 on Sunday when many festival participants had left or were almost finished packing up. I hope that the organisational effort and time given up by the WSU reaps commensurate rewards.

There are a few points I would make
• I didn’t go round a la Sherlock Holmes but I didn’t notice anything indicating the WSU participation (apologies if there was but I didn’t see it.)
• I certainly didn’t see the WSU mentioned in any of the pre event publicity – press, official website etc. though the Community Scheme and club shop were.
• There was nothing on the WSU website.

I'm not sure that the thread is quite as repetitive as you believe Spud. It’s a bit like the onion and you learn more as the layers are peeled away. The outer layers we are all familiar with and, though I personally find the repetition and personalisation on from both areas of opinion irksome, can be taken as read but as the new layers become exposed other issues become highlighted.

New areas highlighted in the thread for me are
• There is over £3,000 pounds raised by supporters of Welling United lying dormant – Why? and lets not have the smartarse answer because members haven’t voted on a proposal to distribute. The question is why aren’t the members considering uses to which the money can be put to the benefit of the supporters and Welling United?
• WUISA is still attending national events in the name of Welling United, yet I certainly don't know what has been discussed at these events and more importantly what views have been expressed by those representing Welling United. I assume because it still has members, no matter how many that may be, it has every right to attend these events.

As the only respondent who has declared that they are a WUISA member perhaps Moo can enlighten us.


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I didn’t go round a la Sherlock Holmes but I didn’t notice anything indicating the WSU participation - ERM EVERY EVENT SIGN HAD WSU SOMEWHERE ON IT AND THEY WERE ON CARRIER BAGS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT WITH INFO ON COMMUNITY SCHEME.


 


What i meant was that this subject comes up often and nowt is resolved and its all a bit repeative.


• There is over £3,000 pounds raised by supporters of Welling United lying dormant – Why? and lets not have the smartarse answer because members haven’t voted on a proposal to distribute. The question is why aren’t the members considering uses to which the money can be put to the benefit of the supporters and Welling United?


agreed whats the good of raising money and doing nowt with it!



• WUISA is still attending national events in the name of Welling United, yet I certainly don't know what has been discussed at these events and more importantly what views have been expressed by those representing Welling United. I assume because it still has members, no matter how many that may be, it has every right to attend these events.


Why are these facts not public knowledge as well for all to see or this a closed shop?



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I didn't manage to get up to the festival till late on Sunday afternoon (and before some wag comes out with it I wasn't going to see Peter Andre but I wouldn't have minded seeing Roweta the day before) and the active part of the Welling United area appeared to be the Speed Shot which I watched for a few minutes. I wasn't particularly looking for WSU branding and it didn't, and still doesn't, register as something I had seen when I got back home.

As far as the release of information on it's activities goes that's for WUISA members to decide but maybe they too have issues around the amount of time people have to devote to the regular publishing of news and indeed where/how to spread any such information. However, if you are not in a position to share and learn from others experiences and/or move forward ideas being generated at national supporter led events I personally see no point in the expense and time spent attending.



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Yep!!


 


Nothing forthcoming on all of these national meetings - Are their any minutes?


How can Welling be represented when the only members as far as I see don't go to Welling games (Moo excluded)


 


Moo - my apologies if you are the one that attends these National Meetings representing Welling United


 


 



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Wings at the Danson Festival this Weekend!
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This WAS on the Website - Decent push i would say
 
 
 
Welling United to have strong presence at the Danson Festival this Weekend

For the second year in a row Welling United will be supporting the Danson Festival, with over 50,000 visitors expected to attend this Saturday and Sunday, this is an excellent opportunity for the club to build it's presence in the community.

We welcome all Welling United fans to come and meet up over at Danson Park this weekend with key attractions for all ages centred as you would expect around football. Coming back will be the speed test a fully contained area, that will measure the speed of contestants shooting at a Speed Gun, with prize for all age groups from under 11 to adults.

Danson Festival

The second attraction will be a skills test put together by Jim Dean the community officer for Welling United, this will test the contestants ability to shoot at a target with both feet, this will be timed over a course with the fastest times winning, again the categories will be from under 11 to adults.

Also featured in this area will be a club shop with merchandise available, along with tickets for Welling's main pre season curtain raiser against Charlton Athletic on August 2nd. Welling United Community Scheme will also have presence with opportunity for parents to sign children up for the Welling United Summer Schools taking place in 3 venues during the summer holiday.

For more info on the event check out the Danson Festival 2006 website Danson Festival 2006

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I quote 'We seem to be all over the place'


 


No NOT WE


 


You and the rest of the supporters are not the same thing


 


 



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Whilst I agree that the item on the official website was a indeed a decent push it didn't appear until 28 June and makes no mention of WSU which was the point I was making not that there was nothing on the official website.

I am not aware of any requests for assistance and would assume therefore that all manpower requirements were in place, as indeed they may well have been. I know from personal experience of being involved in weekend long five a side tournaments that despite being a long haul for those involved many wouldn't have it any other way.



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