Its all gone Pete Tong, Out the Cup, getting slaughtered in the league, cant score , leeking goals. Great position in the league slipping away, Players being released (Budget cut again??)
Its ok saying oh well its early in season blah blah, We were comfortably in the play offs, had a great chance of a Cup Run/Good Draw, then weeks later we are a shambles with the season going in nosedive.
Adie and Phil have to sort this or tell everyone whats going on.
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Absolutely awful today. How has it got like this? Everything was superb when we were due to meet Clevedon, side in form etc, flying high (pun?) in the play offs with a gap to the next team. Clevedon were awful too and they get thrashed at home by a side fighting for league survival. That cost us money and exposure. Frankly the players have been pathetic since Clevedon. Morale is on the floor, Why?
There clearly are fundamental issues at Welling that may be out of the Managers hands. I expected a new signing there today when i arrived. It seems we have released a first team regular and a sub who had just scored 2 goals and brought nobody in.
Having just got back I can assure you that Dorchester ain't a 'crap side' JgFc. The reality is that we seem to have trouble dealing with sides with a lot of pace and as with Histon Dorchester had that.
Dorchester took the first half though we had chances. Their first goal was fortunate and their second was a cracking free kick. We threw everything but the kitchen sink at them from the start of the 2nd half but it was one of those days when the gods were against us. I think Aide was a bit late making the substitutions. Gabs can be a handful with his pace and grit and Andrew Sam is getting there in terms of match fitness and being 2-0 down with 25 minutes to go and not getting the rub of the green it is surely the time to go for broke. I was very pleased to see that Gabs was credited with the goal and not Che as was announced over the tannoy since it certainly was his goal.
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Mark X, you said everything I was going to. The performance wasn't that bad at all - and as you say with the rub of the green we could have had a cricket score.
Was Moore dropped again - not to even make the bench? Don't get me wrong, I rate Perkins, not sure about Lewis yesterday. Leon's getting better, but I still doubt Goodfellow - yes, one of his better performances, but not up to par.
We started off well yesterday but did not take our chances. We seem unable to defend corners or free kicks and Ben Lewis was not at his best. Jamie Turner is turning into a line keeper just like Glenn Knight. He never comes off his line and has gone backwards since Hyde joined as goalkeeping coach. Turner should be commanding his area and catching or punching the ball thereby taking pressure off the central defenders. Why was Chris Moore not playing, was he the fall guy after the Havant defeat or was he unfit? Ellis Green is beginning to look more and more lightweight and Conference South is a physical league.
Moore must be carrying a knock. The defence miss him badly. I'd be tempted to move Perkins to midfield (supposedly his natural position) with neither Boateng or Carthy doing much. Give Goodfellow a break he did fine. If anything it was Soloman who struggled (match sharpness probably).
We definitely need something in central midfield, everytime the ball was loose it was picked up by the oppositon and there were huge holes in the midde of the park. Des Boateng has probably his worst game since joining, I thought he was one of our best players upto a few weeks ago, he just keep giving the ball away and fouling people. Jamie Day is a good playmaker and passer but needs people around him to do the dirty work.
Ellis does look lightweight at times but he is also the best crosser of a ball we have had for years. Keds is also getting very frustrated to the point where I thought he was going to lose it near the end and get himself sent off. JT is struggling tough, he appears to either stay on his line or rush off like a headless chicken to all parts of the field (Clevedon). There were positives from yesterday which were not there from Clevedon but it is still not looking very rosy at the moment especially with all the next 6 games looking pretty tough
Come on Adie has done really well, he knows theres some issues. We also know he is desperate for success. So lets do all WE can and get right behind them, even more so on the terraces for the next game.
Rather have a sticky spell now and sort it than have one at the end ala last season.
Some players are having inconsistent games but get behind them, weve seen what they are capable of.
Che has got in loads of great positions and is getting as fit as he has ever been. Keds has more clubs looking at him than any player at this level. I am sure paul will get Jamie back on song. They are all entitled to an off day and thats all it is. If we slaughter them on sites and forums then that will make things worse.
No way would Adie have released players if he hasnt got some tucked up his sleeve.
Be positive and get behind them, Show them we are behind them. We are all in this together, lets stick together. All for one and one for all.
Ive just heard Adies interview where he says the comments after Clevedon were disgusting,
Adie speaking via transcript on Official site.
I have been reading the websites and I think the stick some of the boys have been getting is a disgrace. I want to keep all the pressure off the boys because we have a young team. No one means to miss a chance or make mistakes. We have lost 3 games on the spin but we have been doing exceptionally well in the league. We have to stick together which we will do. The fans have been fantastic but maybe its just one or two that think slagging off my players is great. At the end of the day we have to stick together because there is a long way to go."
i take it that was Russ's report where he ripped into Che?
I did post at the time it was wrong. Hopefully no more of the witch hunting and slating of individual players will be forthcoming. Criticism is fine but taking the p and ridicule is not big or clever.
after looking at the video i though we did well. Lots of chances just wouldnt fall. Thought ches link up play was good. i can see another hatrick from him very soon. Someone is gonna get a sound beating very soon.
Come on you wings!!
-- Edited by JgFc at 02:19, 2006-11-13
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I would like to see the anons who have some critiscms take time to register, I dont know how Bruno sees it as the forum admin but anonymous critiscm could be as some agenda. I wouldnt like the Forum under brunos tenure to be lumped in with other sites who are slating players.
the players read the sites, if you have a criticsm then at least name yourselves. Critiscm is fine and healthy if warrented and sensible. People can then debate it.
As Adie has said ripping into players for the sake of it or to be clever or stirring isnt.
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People talk about JT performances this season i think that this may concide with the change of GK COACH as Vince Bartram did a great job last season and maybe its a case of getting use to a new way
First time I've had a chance to go online since the game and just wanted to give another fans perspective (Dorch obviously).
First of all many thanks to all associated with the supporters game. We all had a great time (result aside!) and it made for a far better game afterwards with more fans/atmosphere. Thought the game was played in a very good spirit despite us being sh*te. I was the especially woeful left-back for the Dorch supporters and was left for dead on numerous occasions. If it makes you feel any better about the real games result I can now barely move!
I am in two frames of mind about our performance in the real match. We definitely used up hefty portions of the luck we've been deserving in recent games but I thought we defended very solidly and our keeper (well not 'ours' but Brightons - on loan) was quality again. It certainly appeared from our end that we restricted you to lots of long range efforts but little else. Possession-wise you were all over us but luckily didn't make it count. We all had a good chuckle (though I doubt you did) that were were 2-0 up at half time but had only had one shot on target! That said we all thought it was a stone-wall penalty on our captain/centreback in the area when your player scored his own goal. In fact, he hadn't even seen we'd scored and was still grumbling when he got up - our forward had to tell him we'd gone one up! Little can be said from the second goal really, twas a great free-kick.
Second half you again battered our defence but I thought the few times we went forward your defence looked bereft of confidence. Despite not getting many chances we created three glorious opportunities which god only knows how we managed to miss them, especially the last when our forward was unmarked with time on the penalty spot Your goalie in particular was livid with your defenders!
Still, as has been said by all, on another you'd have put some of your chances in and romped away with it. For at least 60 minutes of the game my heart was in my mouth and then it began to look like one of those horrible games (for you) where nothing will go right and man can Dorch fans sympathise with that. We've had numerous games this season when we've had well over 10 shots on target with no joy at all. If it's any consolation (and I'm sure it's not), most of our fans had our keeper down as motm.
Following up on Spud's post maybe I'm the only one but I believe that JT has always had a penchant for being off his line and the odd 'Grobbelaresque' moments. These traits, along with his living every move as if it were him (even the goalscorer couldn't look more pleased than he does when every goal goes in) and his constant communication with his teammates, good and bad, are what makes him the character he is and real characters don't come along that often.
Nobody has mentioned the significant improvement in his kicks which started last season but has continued to improve and become more consistent this season - certainly in the games I have seen.
For me the difference between last season and this is that he has been caught out more often and every misjudgement on his part which gets punished is by the nature of his role as the keeper high profile. Do strikers score in every game, does a midfielder deliver a good pass every time, or a defender never get skinned - No of course they don't.
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We started off well yesterday but did not take our chances. We seem unable to defend corners or free kicks and Ben Lewis was not at his best. Jamie Turner is turning into a line keeper just like Glenn Knight. He never comes off his line and has gone backwards since Hyde joined as goalkeeping coach. Turner should be commanding his area and catching or punching the ball thereby taking pressure off the central defenders. Why was Chris Moore not playing, was he the fall guy after the Havant defeat or was he unfit? Ellis Green is beginning to look more and more lightweight and Conference South is a physical league.
Your goalie in particular was livid with your defenders!
